Montreal says no, we don't need to trade for a player that will come to us. If you want to make a trade to get something back for PLD it will be at a much lower price due to the lack of leverage the team has, think a second and a b prospect, not a first and Mesar.

either Hoffman (retained) or Dvorak and a 3rd seems like a fair trade..

Hughes won't be trying to screw over the Jets, and the Jets aren't without leverage. PLD is an RFA who's rights are held by the Jets, They don't have to trade him and they don't have to trade him to Montreal but just like Hughes won't be trying to screw over the Jets, Chevy won't be trying to screw over the Habs either.

Yeah that seems fair. I'm just ignoring those that low ball or say to wait. Sure mtl can do those things but the whole point of the agm is establishing fair value for both sides. Also between mesar and kidney who would you say has more value? I personally think mesar has the upside but kidney seems to be more consistent as well as a center. Mesar may be more risk but if both reach what they were drafted for mesar should be better. Just a question of if both are able to reach it.

I agree with this, one of these players I thinks goes the other way. I don't see either holding any value.

I think the trade is pretty reasonable. Maybe switch Mesar to Beck, as it looks like the Jets will be needing centres soon. If the Jets don't make a trade, they just QO PLD, and then can get a good return likely at TDL.
I know Habs fans think they can him for "free" in summer of 2024, and there is validity to that argument. But PLD is gonna to pissed if the Habs don't trade for him, so he can get an eight year deal from Montreal instead of a the QO 6m deal and then 7m from Montreal

Hoffman and Dvorak aren't worth their contracts. Jets would be better off without those players in any trade and just keep cap space

If habs were to go for a deal this summer it would be for 2024 top 10 protected 1st and maybe Kidney + one of : Sobolev, Kapanen, Tuch .... We are not in dire need and got all the leverage against Jets.

For me i'd prefer to trade Mesar than Beck lol

Yeah definitely cap will go the other way. Hoffman would be nice with him expiring sooner and flippable. Dvorak would be someone that fits the void better longer contract but injury concerns. I don't really want either lol but to make it work it definitely needs to be included.

Jets have lucius, lambert, zhilkin and can draft a center at 17 and or 19 so a center doesn't seem to be a necessity but would be nice. Mesar is right shot which helps as he could be a nice lehkonen type 3rd liner hopefully

Who has more value between mesar and kidney? I feel like their pretty close I'm what they should be at the nhl level. One has struggled one has b2b 100 point seasons. Could be 2024 top 8 protected and if it slides and the Calgary pick slides Jets get the better of the 2 picks so quite possibly a early teens pick but again we'd have to wait for the pick longer.

I kinda think it's hilarious that PLD is getting all this attention. There are about three UFAs on each team and they all don't get traded. Even the Leafs have three good ones coming up.....Matthews, Nylander and Brodie. I imagine the Leafs try to win those guys. Even if they don't resign them, at least they have Cup run with them 2024. And if they don't resign well that's 23.6m to sign other players.

This is more happening as for the past year Dubois has been linked to mtl and he's an rfa. Jets also aren't a team that can just run into the season with Dubois and not know if they have him beyond the season. Toronto can afford to do that as people like playing in Toronto and isn't as hard to attract big names while the jets have to retain their big names

Kidney definitly. Mesar still need to bolster is physique a whole lot and is not even close to playmaking. I see Mesar as a 2 way euro (might even be a softy) and Kidney I see an All-around centerman.

cgy 2024 is between 20-32 per ruling

Mesar also plays C if need be

Okay so that means that I'd should be more advantageous to trade away mesar than kidney right? Mesar should be doing better and definitely still has upside but kidney has really done well compared to draft position

Can't it be in 2025? The amount of complications on that pick is way too much for most to understand lol

That's Habs fans though. They don't leave anything alone. Also all their media is super silly.

Yeah he definitely could but ideally he's a winger due to his size and speed. He also hasn't played much center to my knowledge. He kind of reminds me of barron in a way where he can play center but you rarely see him there but someone who realistically could play but may not be as effective as one.

I just think MTL trade for PLD only if they can't draft a future 1C at the draft.
Also if you don't want Dach to play center, but he played his best hockey at that position this season.

I agree that Jets should traded PLD this summer.....it eliminates drama that would follow the Jets the whole season.
But isn't Schefeile in the same category? He's a UFA at the end of the season, as are Wheeler, Dillon, DeMelo and Hellebyuck. Jets have some big decisions this summer and by TDL. Do we continue to keep our good UFAs who led us to 8th place or try to sell and make a rebuild with new cap space and prospects/picks?

I feel like it is a really hot topic. However, pretty sure that, if there is a trade between Mtl and WIN for Dubois, the price will be kinda low like the Fox's trade to NYR. The team lack leverage to keep him and leverage to trade him elsewhere than MTL.

A third team would not pay full price also, fearing like WIN that Dubois would only sign for 1 year before leaving for MTL.

Could be a situation where you have 2 centers on a line. Really used by the jets near the end of the season where depending on faceoff location and who they are facing they swap. Also Dubois is a left shot and dach is right so it really helps there too. Dubois is just a good player and having the ability to what I outlined is also cool to have options

I guess the fans are just so happy that at least one player wants to come to Montreal as UFA. Montreal generally has to overpay to get players to sign there.
And even PLD....nice player but he's a second line centre or winger.