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Created by: Marcsnack
Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 27, 2023
Published: Apr. 27, 2023
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I have been trying to find a Granlund trade that would make sense without moving our 1st, and I cant seem to do it.
Think POJ could bring back a 2nd/3rd. Can be a different team.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
3$1,000,000
1$800,000
2$775,000
2$825,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$4,750,000
3$4,500,000
5$6,000,000
4$4,250,000
1$800,000
Trades
PIT
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (PIT)
NSH
  1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  2. 2023 5th round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
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2023
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2024
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2025
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23$83,500,000$78,868,925$0$0$4,631,075
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LW
RFA - 1
$4,250,000$4,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$800,000$800,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$3,125,000$3,125,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
UFA - 5
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Apr. 27 at 7:54 p.m.
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We have no space for POJ on the left side, unless hes somehow insane on his off hand. Preds will stick with our 2nd.
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Apr. 27 at 7:58 p.m.
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Agreed, buying out Granlund does make the most sense. The RFAs should and will deserve more than what you’ve allocated for them. Mainly DOC, who should get some term as well. Poehling is the only one that makes sense.

If we’re running it back with Jarry (which we most likely will) then we need to sign a better insurance option and move DeSmith.
Apr. 27 at 8:25 p.m.
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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska
Agreed, buying out Granlund does make the most sense. The RFAs should and will deserve more than what you’ve allocated for them. Mainly DOC, who should get some term as well. Poehling is the only one that makes sense.

If we’re running it back with Jarry (which we most likely will) then we need to sign a better insurance option and move DeSmith.


Poeling has a lot to prove. He has the potential to be good but hasn't reached it yet. He is currently a slightly worse player than Granlund (but not as overpaid).

Agreed on the last part. Sign someone to a decent amount and stash them in AHL
Apr. 28 at 2:49 p.m.
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Quoting: JuanDamienNebraska
Agreed, buying out Granlund does make the most sense. The RFAs should and will deserve more than what you’ve allocated for them. Mainly DOC, who should get some term as well. Poehling is the only one that makes sense.

If we’re running it back with Jarry (which we most likely will) then we need to sign a better insurance option and move DeSmith.


How much more would you give them?
Nylander gets a 1-year, but it is a full year so he gets to prove himself.
Puustinen has yet to play a season in the league, so he takes a 2-year deal.
Smith gets same deal as POJ.
DOC gets a 1-year prove it deal.
Poehling gets his term.

If you wanna increase the wages, we wont have anything left to upgrade on DeSmith.
Apr. 28 at 2:50 p.m.
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Poeling has a lot to prove. He has the potential to be good but hasn't reached it yet. He is currently a slightly worse player than Granlund (but not as overpaid).

Agreed on the last part. Sign someone to a decent amount and stash them in AHL


I dont think Poehling was bad at all? He was playing a completely different role from Granlund and they arent really comparable.
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Apr. 28 at 4:32 p.m.
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How much more would you give them?
Nylander gets a 1-year, but it is a full year so he gets to prove himself.
Puustinen has yet to play a season in the league, so he takes a 2-year deal.
Smith gets same deal as POJ.
DOC gets a 1-year prove it deal.
Poehling gets his term.

If you wanna increase the wages, we wont have anything left to upgrade on DeSmith.


I disagree entirely on the premise that DOC needs a prove it deal. He’s proved that he can be a more than competent 4th liner with youthful energy and upside. The question becomes whether or not he can advance to a 3rd line role in the coming years. I think that is up in the air and probably slightly unlikely. As his confidence continues to grow, I feel he’ll even further cement himself as a very good 4th liner that can periodically move up in the instance that there are injuries. I would sign him to term now incase he does break out. I’d say 3 years 1 million max. Probably just below that number. He was playing very well the second half of the year.

As for Poehling, I think you’ve got it right with his deal.

Nylander we should sign to a two year deal. He played well when in the line up. Two years gives us enough evaluation and experimental time with him and it will mean that his deal will expire alongside Petry’s. Therefore if he does breakout this year, we will be able to pay him rather than lose him after this coming season, like we would if he were on a one year. The AHL stint was a wake up call and he is clearly hungry as he watches his brother succeed. A breakout (relatively speaking) is certainly possible. I’d say 800k-850k for Nylander at the two years. Hopefully 800k, but the two years is important.

Smith will likely get more than Joseph did. Keep in mind Smith has two seasons of NHL experience with the Devils and played pretty solid for at least one of those, given the circumstances of the team. He would’ve been in the show this year if it weren’t for our LD overload, his face injury, and him being the only one on a two way deal. I think we should sign him to term while we can, probably in the 900-950k range. The worst that can happen is that he stays at a 6th d man skill set and with that deal he’d be paid as such for 3 years. All upside to lock him up to those terms.

Puustinen I can see for signing to about 800k or even league min. Obviously he doesn’t have the NHL minutes, but has performed excellently wherever he’s played. I’d say 800kish just because he very well could leave for Finland for a bit if he doesn’t see a spot on the team in the near future. That’d extra could entice him a bit. Of all the players though id say he’d be most likely to get league min. I would pay him a high AHL salary incase he doesn’t make the team this season out of camp. He’ll surely replace Carter the following year though. Two years makes sense for him for similar reasons to Nylander. The Petry monster deal will expire when they do too.

Poehling - 1 million 3 years
O’Connor - 900k-1 million 3 years
Smith - 900k-950kish 3 years
Nylander - 800-850kish 2 years
Puustinen - 800kish 2 years (2 way deal with high AHL salary)

Is what I’d like to realistically see. Anything lower salary wise than what I’ve laid out is a bonus, but I’d at least plan to pay each of these guys the lower of the above numbers realistically.

It’s important to keep in mind that the couple 50-100k are vital for these guys as is the security of decent term and one way contracts. There’s a big difference between league min and these number for these guys lives and moral. That’s my take on them.
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Apr. 28 at 7:05 p.m.
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I dont think Poehling was bad at all? He was playing a completely different role from Granlund and they arent really comparable.


Well everyone is comparable. Corsi, Expected Goals, Expected Goals Against, faceoffs. All favor Granlund.
Apr. 29 at 11:14 a.m.
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I disagree entirely on the premise that DOC needs a prove it deal. He’s proved that he can be a more than competent 4th liner with youthful energy and upside. The question becomes whether or not he can advance to a 3rd line role in the coming years. I think that is up in the air and probably slightly unlikely. As his confidence continues to grow, I feel he’ll even further cement himself as a very good 4th liner that can periodically move up in the instance that there are injuries. I would sign him to term now incase he does break out. I’d say 3 years 1 million max. Probably just below that number. He was playing very well the second half of the year.

As for Poehling, I think you’ve got it right with his deal.

Nylander we should sign to a two year deal. He played well when in the line up. Two years gives us enough evaluation and experimental time with him and it will mean that his deal will expire alongside Petry’s. Therefore if he does breakout this year, we will be able to pay him rather than lose him after this coming season, like we would if he were on a one year. The AHL stint was a wake up call and he is clearly hungry as he watches his brother succeed. A breakout (relatively speaking) is certainly possible. I’d say 800k-850k for Nylander at the two years. Hopefully 800k, but the two years is important.

Smith will likely get more than Joseph did. Keep in mind Smith has two seasons of NHL experience with the Devils and played pretty solid for at least one of those, given the circumstances of the team. He would’ve been in the show this year if it weren’t for our LD overload, his face injury, and him being the only one on a two way deal. I think we should sign him to term while we can, probably in the 900-950k range. The worst that can happen is that he stays at a 6th d man skill set and with that deal he’d be paid as such for 3 years. All upside to lock him up to those terms.

Puustinen I can see for signing to about 800k or even league min. Obviously he doesn’t have the NHL minutes, but has performed excellently wherever he’s played. I’d say 800kish just because he very well could leave for Finland for a bit if he doesn’t see a spot on the team in the near future. That’d extra could entice him a bit. Of all the players though id say he’d be most likely to get league min. I would pay him a high AHL salary incase he doesn’t make the team this season out of camp. He’ll surely replace Carter the following year though. Two years makes sense for him for similar reasons to Nylander. The Petry monster deal will expire when they do too.

Poehling - 1 million 3 years
O’Connor - 900k-1 million 3 years
Smith - 900k-950kish 3 years
Nylander - 800-850kish 2 years
Puustinen - 800kish 2 years (2 way deal with high AHL salary)

Is what I’d like to realistically see. Anything lower salary wise than what I’ve laid out is a bonus, but I’d at least plan to pay each of these guys the lower of the above numbers realistically.

It’s important to keep in mind that the couple 50-100k are vital for these guys as is the security of decent term and one way contracts. There’s a big difference between league min and these number for these guys lives and moral. That’s my take on them.


Thats fair. I can understand your points. Not crazy differences honestly.
Just got Nylander one spot on cool
Apr. 29 at 12:30 p.m.
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Thats fair. I can understand your points. Not crazy differences honestly.
Just got Nylander one spot on cool


Would have much rather us paid the extra couple ten thousand if it meant getting him for two years and aligning him with Petry’s term. Hopefully we don’t lose him after the year if he were to break out. We shall see.

Now if he breaks out and we do keep him, then we’ll almost certainly be paying him more over the next two years then we would’ve if we got him in at two this year. All ifs, but would’ve been low enough of a risk. We’ll see.
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