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Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: May 3, 2023
Published: May 3, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,200,000
2$900,000
3$2,100,000
2$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$4,500,000
2$5,000,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Cossa, Sebastian
  2. Zadina, Filip
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (DET)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (DET)
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2023
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22$82,500,000$69,401,389$0$4,257,500$13,098,611
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
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C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C, LW, RW
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UFA - 4
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,460,000$1,460,000
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
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$878,333$878,333 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
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LD
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
G
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UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 3
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 3
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
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UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
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Taxi Squad
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C
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
RFA
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
RFA
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
RFA
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$867,500$867,500 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
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$828,333$828,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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$828,333$828,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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May 3, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
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you gotta be a montreal fan to think the Anderson trade is okay
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May 3, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
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What in the hell is that Josh Anderson trade? 2 solid picks, plus Zadina, plus a top end goalie prospect for Josh Anderson? Why would Detroit ever in a million years do that?
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May 3, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.
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Fabbri doesn't help Calgary get under the cap
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May 3, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.
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Quoting: lukefelsner
you gotta be a montreal fan to think the Anderson trade is okay


Says he's a Flames fan on his profile, but that MTL trade would suggest otherwise
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May 3, 2023 at 2:29 p.m.
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Quoting: lukefelsner
you gotta be a montreal fan to think the Anderson trade is okay


Quoting: AmeriCanadian
What in the hell is that Josh Anderson trade? 2 solid picks, plus Zadina, plus a top end goalie prospect for Josh Anderson? Why would Detroit ever in a million years do that?


Im pretty sure it's the other way around... We are not letting Anderson go for a Goalie playing in the ECHL( with a 2.5 GAA and 9,13 s%), a bust and a 2nd round pick. We have the cap space and Andy is a leader in the room. No need to trade him just to trade him.
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May 3, 2023 at 2:29 p.m.
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Guy's... from MTL here
Cossa was terrible in the AHL... just OK for ECHL
No way MTL want's Zadina... NO WAY!!!! and a 2 or a 3rd that we do have a ton of them won't even move the needle.
Easy pass from MTL.
May 3, 2023 at 2:30 p.m.
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Im pretty sure it's the other way around... We are not letting Anderson go for a Goalie playing in the ECHL( with a 2.5 GAA and 9,13 s%), a bust and a 2nd round pick. We have the cap space and Andy is a leader in the room. No need to trade him just to trade him.


Cossa is a top 5 goalie prospect on earth. I agree that Anderson likely doesn't get moved, but if you made this offer from the Habs side you would get laughed out of a negotiation. It's delusional.
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May 3, 2023 at 2:31 p.m.
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Fabbri has no value , he can't stay on the ice and yeah no way Anderson gets that kind of return.
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May 3, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
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Quoting: DomCholette
Guy's... from MTL here
Cossa was terrible in the AHL... just OK for ECHL
No way MTL want's Zadina... NO WAY!!!! and a 2 or a 3rd that we do have a ton of them won't even move the needle.
Easy pass from MTL.


He's also a prospect and that was his first pro season. Look at rhe game splits and how he developed over the season. You get laughed out of the room if you offer this to the Wings. The trade is an absolute joke
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May 3, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
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Quoting: AmeriCanadian
Cossa is a top 5 goalie prospect on earth. I agree that Anderson likely doesn't get moved, but if you made this offer from the Habs side you would get laughed out of a negotiation. It's delusional.


Was a top 5 goalie prospect... he can't even pierce the AHL.

Hell! Kevin Poulin with the Rocket has better stats in the AHL.
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May 3, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
Was a top 5 goalie prospect... he can't even pierce the AHL.

Hell! Kevin Poulin with the Rocket has better stats in the AHL.


This was his first year pro. He's 20 years old. Poulin is a 33 year old vet. That's an insane comparison to make.
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May 3, 2023 at 2:37 p.m.
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This was his first year pro. He's 20 years old. Poulin is a 33 year old vet. That's an insane comparison to make.


With today option in the league between the pipe... NO THANKS
Primeau was way better at is age and still couldn't reach up...
sorry no needs in Mtl for Cossa & Zadina
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May 3, 2023 at 2:37 p.m.
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Quoting: AmeriCanadian
This was his first year pro. He's 20 years old. Poulin is a 33 year old vet. That's an insane comparison to make.


Primeau then!

Like his numbers are not impressive in the ECHL and ARE TERRIBLE in the AHL.

Most Rookie Goalie do better in their first season.
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May 3, 2023 at 2:54 p.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
Im pretty sure it's the other way around... We are not letting Anderson go for a Goalie playing in the ECHL( with a 2.5 GAA and 9,13 s%), a bust and a 2nd round pick. We have the cap space and Andy is a leader in the room. No need to trade him just to trade him.


Delusion disorder.
May 3, 2023 at 2:55 p.m.
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Primeau then!

Like his numbers are not impressive in the ECHL and ARE TERRIBLE in the AHL.

Most Rookie Goalie do better in their first season.


I'm not sure how but you're already more intolerable than that random fake Red Wings fan that has a weird hatred for Raymond.
May 3, 2023 at 2:58 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
I'm not sure how but you're already more intolerable than that random fake Red Wings fan that has a weird hatred for Raymond.


Buddy, I'm sorry but defend this...
G GAA Sv%
2022-23 Grand Rapids Griffins AHL 3 5.57 0.783
2022-23 Toledo Walleye ECHL 46 2.56 0.913

I get you don't want to trade him... but from a habs fan POV, there is no reason to trade Andy for that package. I may believe Norlinder is the next Karlsson, but I can't really defend it either.
May 3, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
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Caufield, Suzuki for Hirose and Luff
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May 3, 2023 at 3:46 p.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
Buddy, I'm sorry but defend this...
G GAA Sv%
2022-23 Grand Rapids Griffins AHL 3 5.57 0.783
2022-23 Toledo Walleye ECHL 46 2.56 0.913

I get you don't want to trade him... but from a habs fan POV, there is no reason to trade Andy for that package. I may believe Norlinder is the next Karlsson, but I can't really defend it either.


It never ceases to amaze when someone tries to tell fans about their teams prospect despite not knowing anything about them. You do realize that he was part of a 18 game win streak in Toledo right? Also, his team dominated their first round series in large part due to goaltending. Costa is leading the playoffs in save percentage. The Griffins sucked this year and the Wings did not want to expose Cossa to that environment.
May 3, 2023 at 3:47 p.m.
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He's also a prospect and that was his first pro season. Look at rhe game splits and how he developed over the season. You get laughed out of the room if you offer this to the Wings. The trade is an absolute joke


To some hockey fans a goalie is supposed to be drafted and then win the Vezina trophy the next season or else he's a bust. Goalies don't need development.

Plus I've noticed there's a bit of Yzerman hate. It seems like each player he drafts is often called a bad pick. I really don't get it.

"Yzerman blew it! He picked Seider! LOL!"

That aged well. 🤔
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May 3, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.
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Habs add in Suzuki and caufield to the wings trade
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May 3, 2023 at 3:58 p.m.
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Quoting: RedWing9119
It never ceases to amaze when someone tries to tell fans about their teams prospect despite not knowing anything about them. You do realize that he was part of a 18 game win streak in Toledo right? Also, his team dominated their first round series in large part due to goaltending. Costa is leading the playoffs in save percentage. The Griffins sucked this year and the Wings did not want to expose Cossa to that environment.


And after Xmas he's been lights out and people who know nothing think he's a bust, it's pathetic
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May 3, 2023 at 5:52 p.m.
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Quoting: soooonk
Says he's a Flames fan on his profile, but that MTL trade would suggest otherwise


He was probably sick of Habs fans offering Anderson to the flames for multiple first round picks and prospects.
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May 3, 2023 at 6:54 p.m.
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I'm gonna have to disagree with my fellow Habs fan here...

Habs absolutely would make that deal. We all like Anderson, and rightfully so...but the reality is that he's just outside of the window we're trying to build here in terms of age, and while I'm perfectly comfortable with Anderson's contract for what he brings, that $5.5m could be necessary pretty quickly with the youngsters we have on the team, when they'll come out of their ELCs.

In Cossa, Habs would land a legit goalie prospect. Was his performance thus far a bit underwhelming ? Yes. Do I prefer Wallstedt between the two ? Also yes. But there's still upside there. Zadina is still young enough to get fixed by MSL, and adding a 2nd and 3rd in 2023 would be right on with what the Habs are doing right now.

It's all a moot point, as this trade doesn't really make sense for Detroit.
May 3, 2023 at 7:13 p.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
Buddy, I'm sorry but defend this...
G GAA Sv%
2022-23 Grand Rapids Griffins AHL 3 5.57 0.783
2022-23 Toledo Walleye ECHL 46 2.56 0.913

I get you don't want to trade him... but from a habs fan POV, there is no reason to trade Andy for that package. I may believe Norlinder is the next Karlsson, but I can't really defend it either.


Filip Mesar who wasn’t even 1 ppg in the OHL 😹😭 and two-2nd round picks for Dominik Kubalik? Would you do that. Just kidding, I like Mesar, but that’s how bad this is.
May 3, 2023 at 8:24 p.m.
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I’m an habs fan and even I know Anderson isn’t worth that. Cossa and a third seems more realistic. Or Zadina, Stl second and a third
 
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