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Realistic Off-Season

Created by: GladeBang12
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 9, 2023
Published: May 9, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,250,000
3$4,000,000
2$800,000
2$2,000,000
4$5,000,000
1$2,000,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (PHI)
BUF
  1. Samsonov, Ilya [RFA Rights]
2.
TOR
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
3.
CGY
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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Logo of the CHI
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$78,465,926$0$0$5,034,074
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$834,167$834,167
LW, RW
RFA - 1

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May 9, 2023 at 11:31 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Kane & Tarasenko are $3.5-6.5kil/ur guys now

Nylander predominantly played in the 2nd line as well

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Jarnkrok/Knies-Tavares-Nylander


Nylander plays on the 2nd line, gets less power play time and still puts up much better numbers than either of those guys, and there is no way in hell eithrr kane or Tarasenko take less than 7 unless they get massive term which would be endlessly dumb
May 10, 2023 at 12:01 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
No, that not true at all. He's been middling to accepable most of his career


No what I said is absolutely true and you’re wrong. Dude the stats are right there lol. It’s black and white. I get it and you don’t watch Pettersson and want to believe all your players are gods while the other teams are nothing but cap dumps but you’re just wrong lol. If Toronto can’t come to terms on an extension for Nylander, they should absolutely consider this deal. It’s not that Nylander sucks. But his contract situation is an issue. And there are only a few teams that may pay a good return for him. And a young top 4 defensive defenseman should be on Toronto’s wish list.
May 10, 2023 at 12:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyfan1234
No what I said is absolutely true and you’re wrong. Dude the stats are right there lol. It’s black and white. I get it and you don’t watch Pettersson and want to believe all your players are gods while the other teams are nothing but cap dumps but you’re just wrong lol. If Toronto can’t come to terms on an extension for Nylander, they should absolutely consider this deal. It’s not that Nylander sucks. But his contract situation is an issue. And there are only a few teams that may pay a good return for him. And a young top 4 defensive defenseman should be on Toronto’s wish list.


You shouls really look at those stats again, this time factor in ice time and zone starts. Getting numbers on 2nd or 3rd pair time does not equal 1st pair time.
And no, this is an awful deal for the leafs, even if you pretend petterson is as vauable as nylander because they dont need a ld half as bad as they need nylander
May 10, 2023 at 12:13 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
You shouls really look at those stats again, this time factor in ice time and zone starts. Getting numbers on 2nd or 3rd pair time does not equal 1st pair time.
And no, this is an awful deal for the leafs, even if you pretend petterson is as vauable as nylander because they dont need a ld half as bad as they need nylander


Way to twist words and play gymnastics. Where did I say he was a 1st pair d? I don’t need to look at the stats again. You need to actually look at them. He’s a good top 4 defensive dman and has only had 1 bad year. The rest of the year the stats have been similar.
Show me where I said Pettersson was as valuable as Nylander? If I said that, why would I say the pens accept when they are also adding a 2nd in this acgm?
I never said they needed a LD. I said a young top 4 defensive defenseman should be on their wishlist if they were to trade Nylander.
May 10, 2023 at 12:16 a.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyfan1234
Way to twist words and play gymnastics. Where did I say he was a 1st pair d? I don’t need to look at the stats again. You need to actually look at them. He’s a good top 4 defensive dman and has only had 1 bad year. The rest of the year the stats have been similar.
Show me where I said Pettersson was as valuable as Nylander? If I said that, why would I say the pens accept when they are also adding a 2nd in this acgm?
I never said they needed a LD. I said a young top 4 defensive defenseman should be on their wishlist if they were to trade Nylander.


The entire issue is that this trade is bad for the leafs, so that is why i am giving you reasons why it is bad for the leafs.
And no, if the leafs trade nylander, their wish list would be forwards
May 10, 2023 at 12:28 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
The entire issue is that this trade is bad for the leafs, so that is why i am giving you reasons why it is bad for the leafs.
And no, if the leafs trade nylander, their wish list would be forwards


No their wishlist should be a young top 4 defensive defenseman. That defense is sus outside of Reilly and maybe Brodie who is no spring chicken lol.
May 10, 2023 at 12:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyfan1234
No their wishlist should be a young top 4 defensive defenseman. That defense is sus outside of Reilly and maybe Brodie who is no spring chicken lol.


No, it really shouldn't. The leafs have significantly more top 4 defenders and potential top 4 defenders than they do 1st line fowards
May 10, 2023 at 12:32 a.m.
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Nothing here makes any sense, except the Acciari, ROR, and Schenn contracts. Bertuzzi gets a little more than 5 mill, the Flames wouldn't do that deal, and the Nylander trade flat out sucks ass. I highly doubt he gets traded, and even if so, is worth WAAAY more than that. Willy should be back either way tho. Sammy will be back, and Freddie isn't all that good anymore. He's an ok 1B, but he's declining and only getting older.
May 10, 2023 at 12:51 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
No, it really shouldn't. The leafs have significantly more top 4 defenders and potential top 4 defenders than they do 1st line fowards


Except that’s not true at all lol.
May 10, 2023 at 1:17 a.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyfan1234
Except that’s not true at all lol.


Yeah, it is.
If the leafs trade nylander they have 2 top 6 forwards, and two maybes under 30 years old under contract in matthews, Marner, knies and robertson and then tavares over 30.
If the leafs dont make any moves they have 3 top 4 defenders and 3 maybes in rielly, mccabe, liljegren, niemela, holloway and dahlstrom and then gio and brodie over 30.

So 2 out of 6 and 3 out of 4. What's a bigger hole?
May 10, 2023 at 8:47 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Yeah, it is.
If the leafs trade nylander they have 2 top 6 forwards, and two maybes under 30 years old under contract in matthews, Marner, knies and robertson and then tavares over 30.
If the leafs dont make any moves they have 3 top 4 defenders and 3 maybes in rielly, mccabe, liljegren, niemela, holloway and dahlstrom and then gio and brodie over 30.

So 2 out of 6 and 3 out of 4. What's a bigger hole?


You literally just proved yourself wrong lol. You say if you trade Nylander then you’d only have 2 top 6 forwards. Then go on to list 3 definite top 6 forwards in Matthews, Marner, and Tavares. Then you have maybes in Knies and Robertson. You also trade Nylander then you sign Bunting who probably takes less, especially over the longer term. Now you have 4 definite top 6 forwards and 4 definite top 4 defenders.
Thanks for playing but you played yourself.
May 10, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Hockeyfan1234
You literally just proved yourself wrong lol. You say if you trade Nylander then you’d only have 2 top 6 forwards. Then go on to list 3 definite top 6 forwards in Matthews, Marner, and Tavares. Then you have maybes in Knies and Robertson. You also trade Nylander then you sign Bunting who probably takes less, especially over the longer term. Now you have 4 definite top 6 forwards and 4 definite top 4 defenders.
Thanks for playing but you played yourself.


lol what? I proved my self wrong by showing you that the leafs have less top 6 forwards than they do top 4 defenders? Did you even read the words? No, of course you didnt.
here are the numbers again, let's see if you can read them
signed top 6 forwards without nylander 3. Tavraes, Matthews, Marner
That's 3
Maybes. Knies and Robertson
That's 2, for a total of 5 with two guys who may or may not be 2nd liners included

Signed top 4 defenders 4, Rielly, Brodie, McCabe, Liljeren
woah, 4 out of 4 already!
now the maybes! 3 Niemela, Holloway and Dahlstrom
total of 7. 7 top 4 defenders including maybes in the system

not only do the leafs have 4 out of 4 needed guys, they have extra for 7 total. they literally have more top 4 guys and futures than they do top 6 forwards and futures total.
Thanks for playing, but you just clowned yourself
May 11, 2023 at 2:40 a.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
lol what? I proved my self wrong by showing you that the leafs have less top 6 forwards than they do top 4 defenders? Did you even read the words? No, of course you didnt.
here are the numbers again, let's see if you can read them
signed top 6 forwards without nylander 3. Tavraes, Matthews, Marner
That's 3
Maybes. Knies and Robertson
That's 2, for a total of 5 with two guys who may or may not be 2nd liners included

Signed top 4 defenders 4, Rielly, Brodie, McCabe, Liljeren
woah, 4 out of 4 already!
now the maybes! 3 Niemela, Holloway and Dahlstrom
total of 7. 7 top 4 defenders including maybes in the system

not only do the leafs have 4 out of 4 needed guys, they have extra for 7 total. they literally have more top 4 guys and futures than they do top 6 forwards and futures total.
Thanks for playing, but you just clowned yourself


Trollolol. Liljegren isn’t a top 4 d. He’s suspect at best. Congrats you played yourself again. But hey, if you wanna keep going and making yourself look bad, be my guest.
May 11, 2023 at 7:27 a.m.
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Trollolol. Liljegren isn’t a top 4 d. He’s suspect at best. Congrats you played yourself again. But hey, if you wanna keep going and making yourself look bad, be my guest.


Yeah, he is. But even if he wasnt the leafs still need forwards way more by the most basic of math. But hey,its clear counting is hard for you
 
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