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Selling off as much as possible

Created by: PodGoalzin99
Team: 2023-24 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: May 10, 2023
Published: May 10, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
3$1,250,000
2$800,000
2$800,000
3$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Smith, Will
3$950,000
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. Newhook, Alex [RFA Rights]
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Couture, Logan ($3,500,000 retained)
2.
SJS
  1. Bailey, Josh
  2. 2025 2nd round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Labanc, Kevin
  2. 2023 5th round pick (SJS)
3.
SJS
  1. Driedger, Chris
  2. Evans, Ryker
  3. Schultz, Justin
  4. 2023 1st round pick (SEA)
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (SEA)
SEA
  1. Karlsson, Erik ($3,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Idk where Karlsson gets traded but it’s gonna happen and I think Seattle makes the most sense and I think it’s pretty fair value
4.
SJS
  1. Reilly, Mike
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (BOS)
BOS
  1. MacDonald, Jacob
  2. 2023 7th round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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Logo of the SJS
Logo of the SEA
Logo of the CBJ
Logo of the SJS
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2024
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the NJD
Logo of the SEA
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the NJD
2025
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the NYI
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the COL
Logo of the SJS
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the SJS
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$66,220,001$25,000$0$17,279,999
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$6,750,000$6,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$800,000$800,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$1,050,000$1,050,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2

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May 10, 2023 at 10:55 p.m.
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Couture is far too old for the Avs. The likelihood his production drops off a cliff is high.
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May 10, 2023 at 10:56 p.m.
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Clearly you know nothing about this team. What a horrid post.
May 10, 2023 at 11:03 p.m.
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Isles do not want Labanc.
May 11, 2023 at 1:18 a.m.
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That's an easy no for the Avs.
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May 11, 2023 at 8:38 a.m.
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Quoting: NMAvsFan
Couture is far too old for the Avs. The likelihood his production drops off a cliff is high.

Employing a good 2C for only $4.5M is a bargain. If Coututre were a Free Agent, I could easily see him get a 4 yr $18M contract. If he has declined significantly in his age 38 season, he would probably still be putting up $3-4M in value, but cap will have increased substantially by then. A buyout would also be very manageable by that stage.

Great on the penalty kill, provides good defense, still manages to produce offensively despite horrid wingers, no sign of any decline so far.

Same argument was used against Pavelski and Burns. Both are top players in the league.

Despite all that, I can see the Avs passing with their cap crunch and not wanting to give up a young cost controlled NHLer. I just don't think you need to unfairly put down Couture to justify your reasoning.
May 11, 2023 at 9:04 a.m.
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Quoting: pavelski_tip_in
Employing a good 2C for only $4.5M is a bargain. If Coututre were a Free Agent, I could easily see him get a 4 yr $18M contract. If he has declined significantly in his age 38 season, he would probably still be putting up $3-4M in value, but cap will have increased substantially by then. A buyout would also be very manageable by that stage.

Great on the penalty kill, provides good defense, still manages to produce offensively despite horrid wingers, no sign of any decline so far.

Same argument was used against Pavelski and Burns. Both are top players in the league.

Despite all that, I can see the Avs passing with their cap crunch and not wanting to give up a young cost controlled NHLer. I just don't think you need to unfairly put down Couture to justify your reasoning.


He stated his age range and the common thing that happens to older players, that is not a put down.

No team should be trading premium assets for a player going into his 35 year old season. Buy out option is not much of a savings and not a great selling point.
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May 11, 2023 at 9:34 a.m.
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He stated his age range and the common thing that happens to older players, that is not a put down.

No team should be trading premium assets for a player going into his 35 year old season. Buy out option is not much of a savings and not a great selling point.

It's poor critical thinking motivated by simplistic categorical thinking. "If age 35+ players decline, then Couture likely will decline." My point is that Couture has a low propensity to lose value so rapidly because: 1) he has almost no injury history 2) his game relies less on athleticism than others 3) his production has showed no signs of slowing and even recently improved 4) a good Avs team would likely improve his numbers since he's frequently surrounded by fringe NHLers currently.

I saw a lot of the same misguided analysis of the Burns situation. Now he's on one of the best contracts in the league and the Hurricanes are loving life with a top 10 defenseman (by impact numbers) on less than $6M AAV.

I get it. Don't trade Newhook for Couture. But don't suggest Couture is not very attractive at $4.5M.

Also the buyout is very reasonable. Idk what you're talking about. The option to just walk away from a player is very attractive. Something like $2M dead cap hit one year and $1M the next if bought out in 2026. Relatively unlikely to be necessary, especially since Couture can continue to PK and provide great defense from C.
May 11, 2023 at 10:30 a.m.
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Isles gain no value trading Bailey for Labanc.
May 11, 2023 at 2:55 p.m.
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Quoting: pavelski_tip_in
It's poor critical thinking motivated by simplistic categorical thinking. "If age 35+ players decline, then Couture likely will decline." My point is that Couture has a low propensity to lose value so rapidly because: 1) he has almost no injury history 2) his game relies less on athleticism than others 3) his production has showed no signs of slowing and even recently improved 4) a good Avs team would likely improve his numbers since he's frequently surrounded by fringe NHLers currently.

I saw a lot of the same misguided analysis of the Burns situation. Now he's on one of the best contracts in the league and the Hurricanes are loving life with a top 10 defenseman (by impact numbers) on less than $6M AAV.

I get it. Don't trade Newhook for Couture. But don't suggest Couture is not very attractive at $4.5M.

Also the buyout is very reasonable. Idk what you're talking about. The option to just walk away from a player is very attractive. Something like $2M dead cap hit one year and $1M the next if bought out in 2026. Relatively unlikely to be necessary, especially since Couture can continue to PK and provide great defense from C.


You've sold me on why the Sharks should keep him. I'm not saying this coming year Couts at 4.5m wouldn't be attractive, he isn't premium asset attractive though. It's the remaining years that get increasingly riskier. Trading a young C(or premium asset) to spend 4.5m on a guy likely to decline through the years when they have to extend Toews and Rants, is poor cap management.
I could be missing something for the buyout but, it does not look like a good move for a team that will be battling the cap.
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