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Created by: Wingsfannn

Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: May 14, 2023

Published: May 14, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Pacioretty given recent injuries likely won’t get big money or longterm. Yzerman offers him same salary and takes the risk hoping if he can stay healthy he might fetch a big return at the deadline

For wings fans thinking playoffs I realistically believe we’re 2 years away. East is too strong. We’ll be better off when edvinsson and kasper etc... get some nhl experience

Yzerman overpays reaves for one year to provide protection for the kids and due to fabbri’s history of injuries he’ll likely end up missing games and reaves should likely still be in line to play significant amount of games

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
McIsaac, Jared	1	$800,000
Veleno, Joseph	3	$1,400,000
Lindström, Gustav	1	$850,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Pysyk, Mark	1	$850,000
Pacioretty, Max	1	$7,000,000
Nosek, Tomas	2	$1,800,000
Reaves, Ryan	1	$2,500,000

CREATED	YEARS	CAP HIT
Wood, Matthew	3	$925,000
Moore, Oliver	3	$925,000
Musty, Quentin	3	$925,000
But, Daniil	3	$925,000

Trades

DET

Murray, Matt
2023 1st round pick (BOS)

TOR

Lindström, Gustav

DET

Myers, Tyler
2023 1st round pick (VAN)

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Canucks get rid of myers cap hit by dropping 6 spots

VAN

2023 1st round pick (NYI)

Additional Details:

Wings move up the draft by taking on myers for a season

DET

2023 1st round pick (WPG)

WPG

2023 1st round pick (BOS)
2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
2023 3rd round pick (DET)

DET

2023 1st round pick (COL)

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After pick 27 avs next pick will be 155 so they make the move

COL

2023 2nd round pick (DET)
2023 2nd round pick (STL)

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Yzerman get aggressive and gets the wings 4th 1st round selection and try’s to speed up the rebuild

DET

2023 1st round pick (DAL)

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Blues decide to fall back 3 spots(actually 2 since they have the 26th spot) and add a young player in veleno and get back to back picks

STL

Veleno, Joseph
2023 1st round pick (COL)

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Wings decide to move up 3 spots to make sure they get who they want and move on from veleno. With all the forward prospects coming up in the system there isn’t likely to be any room for him on the top 9 and he’d likely decide for a trade to another team with a bigger opportunity in the near future

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $1,055,556

Retained Salary Transactions

Jakub Vrána: $2,625,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
27	$8,250,000	$79,578,889	$0	$5,200,000	-$71,328,889

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Pacioretty, Max $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NTC UFA - 8	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) RW, LW RFA - 1
Rasmussen, Michael $1,460,000$1,460,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Copp, Andrew $5,625,000$5,625,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Perron, David $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Zadina, Filip $1,100,000$1,100,000 RW, LW RFA - 1	Kasper, Marco $918,333$918,333 ($1,000,000$1M) C RFA - 3	Berggren, Jonatan $925,000$925,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
Fabbri, Robby $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW UFA - 2	Nosek, Tomas $1,800,000$1,800,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Kubalik, Dominik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
		Reaves, Ryan $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW UFA - 3
		Moore, Oliver $925,000$925,000
		Wood, Matthew $925,000$925,000
		Musty, Quentin $925,000$925,000
		But, Daniil $925,000$925,000

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Määttä, Olli $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD UFA - 2	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 1	Husso, Ville $4,750,000$4,750,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Walman, Jake $3,400,000$3,400,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Chiarot, Ben $4,750,000$4,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Edvinsson, Simon $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) LD RFA - 3	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
McIsaac, Jared $800,000$800,000 LD RFA - 1	Pysyk, Mark $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 1

May 14, 2023 at 10:36 a.m.

mokumboi

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Hmm. You do know that Colorado's 1st is going to be higher than Dallas' 1st, right? Perhaps even 7-8 slots higher. The Avs will pick at #23.

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May 14, 2023 at 10:41 a.m.

tonyhzs

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I love the Vancouver trade. It's fair and makes sense. Not sure if Vancouver wants to pursue this, or if they can stomach the last year of Myers.

The Winnipeg and Colorado trades are bad for everyone. Picks after 20 are about as good as picksin the 40s. No need to move up.

May 14, 2023 at 10:43 a.m.

xercuses

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Quoting: mokumboi

Hmm. You do know that Colorado's 1st is going to be higher than Dallas' 1st, right? Perhaps even 7-8 slots higher. The Avs will pick at #23.

Lol o thought something was off
blues take it lol

May 14, 2023 at 10:47 a.m.

mokumboi

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Quoting: tonyhzs

Picks after 20 are about as good as picksin the 40s.

Ehhh what?? Where does one even get this sort of idea?

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May 14, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.

BrownieSTL

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Quoting: xercuses

Lol o thought something was off
blues take it lol

No they actually have this correct the Colorado pick will actually be later. They don’t reorder picks until the 2nd round is over and division champs that get eliminated get the later picks so Colorado guaranteed to get one of those later picks (around 27 range) meanwhile the Toronto pick the Blues got two days ago officially will be either 24 or 25. The Dallas pick would be either 23 or 24 if they lose Monday but would fall all the way to 29 at best if Dallas wins.

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May 14, 2023 at 10:54 a.m.

JoeROFLCOPTER

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We'd need to add for that VAN trade. It's only one year left and realistically they shouldn't be trying to be buyers at the TDL.

May 14, 2023 at 10:55 a.m.

JoeROFLCOPTER

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Quoting: xercuses

Lol o thought something was off
blues take it lol

Red Wings definitely accept. Joe Veleno; huge cap dump.

May 14, 2023 at 11:07 a.m.

mokumboi

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Quoting: BrownieSTL

Holy crap, I legit did not even notice the Avs rallied to edge the division. Some of us stopped looking at the top of the standings in March to watch the bottom of the standings.

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May 14, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.

Lancebmx

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Besides maybe Colorado I don't see why any team would do those. Unless Dallas beats Seattle then the Blues accept.

May 14, 2023 at 11:46 a.m.

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Warpbox

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Quoting: tonyhzs

It's not good for VAN at all

May 14, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.

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Epic_Ninja_Dude

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Quoting: tonyhzs

If this is what it costs to get rid of Myers, then Vancouver will just stomach the last year of the deal. He can probably return a pick at the deadline 50% retained. If the Canucks do want to move Myers, they’d target a deal using a mid to late round pick to get rid of him (most likely 3rd/4th).

May 14, 2023 at 12:56 p.m.

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Juiceman

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I don’t see why the Canucks would drop 6 spots to shed 1 year of angers. It’s literally just 1 year. Canucks don’t need short term cap space that bad. There really isn’t any benefit of having an extra year of cap space

May 14, 2023 at 1:12 p.m.

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JGFromTheD

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The Wings center pipeline is not the same as the wing pipeline. They have very few centers in the pipeline, so trading Veleno just to sign an older version of him for more money doesn't make sense to me.

May 14, 2023 at 2:25 p.m.

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pavelisgoat

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Quoting: mokumboi

Holy crap, I legit did not even notice the Avs rallied to edge the division. Some of us stopped looking at the top of the standings in March to watch the bottom of the standings.

Dude this makes me wonder now when you give everyone crap on their mock drafts if you have even watched anybody play. If you didn’t even watch enough hockey to know who won your own division, or notice that the Avs faced off against wild card 1 Seattle…

May 14, 2023 at 2:41 p.m.

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Wingsfannn

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Quoting: mokumboi

Hmm. You do know that Colorado's 1st is going to be higher than Dallas' 1st, right? Perhaps even 7-8 slots higher. The Avs will pick at #23.

Actually didn’t lol just checked 2023 draft on capfriendly and saw you listed at 27 I’ll recheck

May 14, 2023 at 2:43 p.m.

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Wingsfannn

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Quoting: tonyhzs

Bad why? All depends if theres someone you like there and think you won’t be able to get them 10 spots back. If we ended up having 0 2nds and 3 1sts and some where we moved up I’d be happy. We should be done playing it safe and I hope yzerman is aggressive . My #1 play wouldnbe michkov if he drops to 6 or 7 but I doubt it happens

May 14, 2023 at 2:46 p.m.

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Wingsfannn

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

We'd need to add for that VAN trade. It's only one year left and realistically they shouldn't be trying to be buyers at the TDL.

Why add? They been desperate to get rid of myers for years and all I hear is how are the canucks going to shed salary this summer. I’d much rather just give up a 2nd at that point to move up and not take on myers. Why would we ever do both

May 14, 2023 at 2:46 p.m.

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mokumboi

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Quoting: pavelisgoat

Riiiiight, because humans never happen to miss something and if they do miss one thing that automatically means they never notice anything. They edged it on the last day, and no, I did not pay any attention to the top of the division standings or how the playoff slots finished up. I was preoccupied with the bottom of the overall standings and checking on draft prospects/Blues draftees in juniors.

And if fair, educated, logical critique qualifies as "giving everyone crap" then what category does this post of yours slot into? "Cogent, dispassionate analysis"?

May 14, 2023 at 2:47 p.m.

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mokumboi

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Quoting: Wingsfannn

Actually didn’t lol just checked 2023 draft on capfriendly and saw you listed at 27 I’ll recheck

Long story short: If Dallas wins game 7 against Seattle, Colorado will have the higher pick. If Seattle wins, Dallas will have the higher pick. My earlier comment was potentially erroneous.

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May 14, 2023 at 2:53 p.m.

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Wingsfannn

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Quoting: JGFromTheD

He’s going to be a 4c on this team. No one will miss him

May 14, 2023 at 2:54 p.m.

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pavelisgoat

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Quoting: mokumboi

Alright pal, just checkinggg. Wasn’t meant to come across as personal as maybe it did. Just had taken your word for a lot in mock draft comments but also realize a lot of people on this site don’t watch the amount of hockey they act like they do. Fair game if you’ve turned your attention to scouting, I’ll keep taking your word there

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May 14, 2023 at 2:56 p.m.

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Wingsfannn

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Quoting: mokumboi

Long story short: If Dallas wins game 7 against Seattle, Colorado will have the higher pick. If Seattle wins, Dallas will have the higher pick. My earlier comment was potentially erroneous.

All good 😂 so either way your guaranteed 26th no? If seattle wins they move into final 4 and you fall back one spot. Same the other scenario

May 14, 2023 at 3:00 p.m.

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mokumboi

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Quoting: pavelisgoat

No worries. Just a little banter. But yeah, last time I remember looking the Avs were like eight points back chasing Dallas and Minnesota. I did not realize they won seven of their last eight to nip it on the final day. No clue. I should have figured it out when Dallas and Minnesota matched up in the 1st round, but I simply didn;t think about it. I was busy watching the Blues' lottery odds annoyingly dwindle over the last few weeks.

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May 14, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.

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pavelisgoat

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Quoting: mokumboi

Yeah I was glad to see the Blues play some good hockey down the stretch and jump past the wings

May 14, 2023 at 3:18 p.m.

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mokumboi

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Quoting: pavelisgoat

Yeah I was glad to see the Blues play some good hockey down the stretch and jump past the wings

I'm sure Washington was, as well.

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