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Getting rid of the beta males

Created by: OILERSFAN44
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 17, 2023
Published: May 17, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$4,750,000
4$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,750,000
2$1,500,000
4$4,000,000
3$1,000,000
2$1,200,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Kempe, Adrian
  2. Vilardi, Gabriel [RFA Rights]
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (LAK)
2.
3.
WSH
  1. Amirov, Rodion
  2. Kokkonen, Mikko
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (LAK)
4.
TOR
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NYR)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$85,500,000$85,488,200$0$0$11,800
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$5,166,667$5,166,667
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,750,000$4,750,000
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2

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May 17, 2023 at 9:29 p.m.
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We have the passion
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O'Rielly dosent look to be returning and Amirov with his current health situation has no value and would be a bad look if we traded him
May 17, 2023 at 9:40 p.m.
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Um.no from Minnesota. Minnesota didn't sign boldy to extension to give him awsy for marner.
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May 17, 2023 at 9:47 p.m.
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Kempe scored more goals than Matthews did this season and he costs less than half as much. No thanks.
May 17, 2023 at 9:59 p.m.
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Always have 2018
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Caps decline
May 17, 2023 at 10:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Mjoyce001
Um.no from Minnesota. Minnesota didn't sign boldy to extension to give him awsy for marner.


What? Minnesota better do that deal in a heartbeat if offered
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Um.no from Minnesota. Minnesota didn't sign boldy to extension to give him awsy for marner.


What? Minnesota better do that deal in a heartbeat if ever offered
May 17, 2023 at 10:30 p.m.
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What? Minnesota better do that deal in a heartbeat if offered

What? Minnesota better do that deal in a heartbeat if ever offered


Why? We'd be trading 7 years of Boldy for 2 years of Marner. Considering Boldy and Marner scored basically he same number of goals this year (31 vs 30 in favor of Boldy) despite Boldy clearly having a lesser pairing of linemates, I don't see the major upside here. We also don't have the cap space for this to make sense. Not only does Marner cost more than Boldy and Foligno combined, we'd also have to pay to fill in an additional roster spot. We're already in major cap hell and will likely have to make a trade to make enough room to fill out the roster so doing this trade will just make the pain worse. I'd rather have a player who is improving under contract for a long time vs a player who is probably about what he is for just 2 years that we can't really afford him.
May 17, 2023 at 10:39 p.m.
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Why? We'd be trading 7 years of Boldy for 2 years of Marner. Considering Boldy and Marner scored basically he same number of goals this year (31 vs 30 in favor of Boldy) despite Boldy clearly having a lesser pairing of linemates, I don't see the major upside here. We also don't have the cap space for this to make sense. Not only does Marner cost more than Boldy and Foligno combined, we'd also have to pay to fill in an additional roster spot. We're already in major cap hell and will likely have to make a trade to make enough room to fill out the roster so doing this trade will just make the pain worse. I'd rather have a player who is improving under contract for a long time vs a player who is probably about what he is for just 2 years that we can't really afford him.


All of this is wrong.
1. Marner is a way better player both offensively and defensively
2. Marner can create on his own, Boldy can not
3. Marner is signed for 2 years, gets what happens in 2 years with the Wild cap?
4. They are fine with cap with this trade. 24 cap opens up a lot
5. Man Minnesota fans fall in love with their own to the detriment of whats best.

We will agree to disagree on this one. But if you pass up on Marner for a trade like this you will regret it
May 17, 2023 at 10:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Legendsofthenorth
What? Minnesota better do that deal in a heartbeat if offered

What? Minnesota better do that deal in a heartbeat if ever offered



Minnesota wouldn't ever. They wouldn't trade a rising superstar for two years of more expensive player.
May 17, 2023 at 10:55 p.m.
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All of this is wrong.
1. Marner is a way better player both offensively and defensively
2. Marner can create on his own, Boldy can not
3. Marner is signed for 2 years, gets what happens in 2 years with the Wild cap?
4. They are fine with cap with this trade. 24 cap opens up a lot
5. Man Minnesota fans fall in love with their own to the detriment of whats best.

We will agree to disagree on this one. But if you pass up on Marner for a trade like this you will regret it


No with all due respect we wouldn't. Nobody is trading 7 years of boldy for two years of Marner, same player as fiala whose dislike by Guerin because they don't have a two way game. Fiala was also let go so Minnesota can pay kaprizov
May 17, 2023 at 11:29 p.m.
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No with all due respect we wouldn't. Nobody is trading 7 years of boldy for two years of Marner, same player as fiala whose dislike by Guerin because they don't have a two way game. Fiala was also let go so Minnesota can pay kaprizov


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May 18, 2023 at 12:28 a.m.
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Wow. Using the term beta males AND trading a kid recovering from a life threatening disease. Umm... You seem nice.
May 18, 2023 at 3:18 a.m.
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There is no guarantee Marner would want to stay in Minnesota. And with the way the management reacted after the playoff loss, they aren't to focused on buying until after the dead cap ends. Boldy is LOCKED into the team for 7 more years. Yes, Marner is better than Boldy. But I'd rather have 21 year old Boldy who's under contract for 7 more years than Marner who is only under contract for the duration of Cap Hell. Imo it's a risk for the Wild, which some people would take, but the Wild have shown no interest in taking that kind of risk with this dead cap. Get Marner a new contract in 1-2 years and Minnesota would start talking.
May 18, 2023 at 9:29 a.m.
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Skip skibbity
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The Capitals politely decline
May 18, 2023 at 9:54 a.m.
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personally i don't think you've made enough acgm's titled "next year", op.
 
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