SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

REBUILD -BEDARD lets debate this

Created by: basicallyyakupov
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 18, 2023
Published: May 18, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Competitive Rebuild

Dismantle the core. Lower the cap hit.
Sign UFA depth slight overpay to fill roster. (max 3 year contracts to keep cap room for when bedard exits entry level contract)
Tavares leads team, takes league minimum after 2 years. (will need to first line for first year, struggle, but next year Tage or Conor takes over; play the Mario Lemieux mentor role)

Team goal is just to make play off for experience, but expected early exit (same results with Core 3 anyways who cares)

Pray that our Finish defensive prospects enter the roster within the next 3 years.
Use cap room to be aggressive with short term contracts in FA.

Max Domi would be ecstatic to join the Leafs and fit into a role utility player.
Pair Bedard with Reaves for protection. (McSorley to Gretzky)

Overall strategy, rebuild/tool into a cap headroom team.
2 steps back, 1 step forward short term, position to be leaps ahead long term.

Expect to win Stanley Cup by year 7 from now.

Have lots of cap room to make moves or sign UFA.

Still ???? for a top Left winger. Not sure who is available on market so left it blank for now, enough cap to fill however.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
3$900,000
3$900,000
3$900,000
3$900,000
3$900,000
3$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,000,000
1$2,000,000
2$7,000,000
3$4,000,000
3$2,500,000
3$4,000,000
3$1,200,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Bedard, Conor
3$900,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Thompson, Tage
Additional Details:
Buffalo has the cap, gives up a stud on bargain contract but will return 2 higher performing players with ability to pay them asking price + retool around Alex Tuch, etc. Help get to cap floor.
BUF
  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. Nylander, William
Additional Details:
TOR loses on this trade but have Tage on term at bargain contract.
2.
TOR
  1. 2023 1st round pick (CHI)
Additional Details:
Conor Bedard
CHI
  1. Matthews, Auston
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
Additional Details:
Chicago gets a prospect gamble in Robertson (potential top 6)
Chicago gets a marquee player in Matthews certified stud. Chicago can sign max cap.
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
Logo of the BOS
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
2024
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the NYI
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the OTT
2025
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$84,000,000$69,672,024$0$0$14,327,976
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Tavares, John
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Tarasenko, Vladimir
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Waivers ExemptKnies, Matthew
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
Thompson, Tage
$7,142,857$7,142,857
C
UFA - 7
Killorn, Alex
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Domi, Max
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Bedard, Conor
$900,000$900,000
Reaves, Ryan
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 3
Rodrigues, Evan
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Acciari, Noel
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Lafferty, Sam
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Järnkrok, Calle
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Samsonov, Ilya
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
McCabe, Jake
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Liljegren, Timothy
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Woll, Joseph
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Giordano, Mark
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Schenn, Luke
$1,200,000$1,200,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Timmins, Conor
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
May 18, 2023 at 7:57 a.m.
#1
Fjordy
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2021
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 1,669
Thompson not available
wojme, RavensShadow, JoeROFLCOPTER and 2 others liked this.
May 18, 2023 at 7:59 a.m.
#2
wojme
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2017
Posts: 7,726
Likes: 5,928
Sabres aren't trading tage on what is possibly going to be the best contract in the league for two rentals.
RavensShadow, JoeROFLCOPTER, KOVETES and 1 other person liked this.
May 18, 2023 at 7:59 a.m.
#3
Ledge_And_Dairy
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 38,668
Likes: 19,767
Toronto doesn't have the assets to get Bedard out of Chicago
RavensShadow, noted, exo2769 and 4 others liked this.
May 18, 2023 at 8:01 a.m.
#4
RavensShadow
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2021
Posts: 528
Likes: 378
Both teams say no, they aren't giving up their young players for potentially rentals that are older and more expensive
exo2769, JoeROFLCOPTER, KOVETES and 1 other person liked this.
May 18, 2023 at 8:03 a.m.
#5
KDev
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2022
Posts: 1,266
Likes: 689
Never change leaf fans, never change.
noted, exo2769, JoeROFLCOPTER and 4 others liked this.
May 18, 2023 at 8:08 a.m.
#6
ThomasJHill
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 2
Likes: 2
Not only do both trades get laughed at, having John Tavares as a 1st line Centre is asking to miss the playoffs.
JoeROFLCOPTER and Hawksguy81 liked this.
May 18, 2023 at 8:11 a.m.
#7
basicallyyakupov
Thread Starter
TML
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 103
Likes: 12
TO CLARIFY: all trades contingent on resign talks + resign

thought it was clear in the trade descriptions that these would ensure non-rental
May 18, 2023 at 8:13 a.m.
#8
basicallyyakupov
Thread Starter
TML
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 103
Likes: 12
Quoting: ThomasJHill
Not only do both trades get laughed at, having John Tavares as a 1st line Centre is asking to miss the playoffs.


Quoting: ThomasJHill
Not only do both trades get laughed at, having John Tavares as a 1st line Centre is asking to miss the playoffs.


and so the Leafs will miss the playoffs for a few years. read description already implied that results don't matter short term
May 18, 2023 at 8:14 a.m.
#9
basicallyyakupov
Thread Starter
TML
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 103
Likes: 12
Quoting: wojme
Sabres aren't trading tage on what is possibly going to be the best contract in the league for two rentals.


TO CLARIFY: all trades contingent on resign talks + resign

thought it was clear in the trade descriptions that these would ensure non-rental
May 18, 2023 at 8:15 a.m.
#10
basicallyyakupov
Thread Starter
TML
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 103
Likes: 12
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Toronto doesn't have the assets to get Bedard out of Chicago


Chicago would turn down this deal? Thought it could go either way, legit top 3 generational talent playing in the league right now. But no problem, Leafs keep.
May 18, 2023 at 8:16 a.m.
#11
basicallyyakupov
Thread Starter
TML
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 103
Likes: 12
Quoting: wojme
Sabres aren't trading tage on what is possibly going to be the best contract in the league for two rentals.


100% agree Tage could probably be the best contract in the NHL in the next few years.

But also noting, Tage will never surpass either Marner or Nylander's career high let along both together.
May 18, 2023 at 8:16 a.m.
#12
wojme
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2017
Posts: 7,726
Likes: 5,928
Quoting: basicallyyakupov
TO CLARIFY: all trades contingent on resign talks + resign

thought it was clear in the trade descriptions that these would ensure non-rental


So sabres lose a leader in tage on a steal of a contract to possibly sign two players to ridiculously bloated contracts and destroy the sabres cap?
May 18, 2023 at 8:18 a.m.
#13
wojme
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2017
Posts: 7,726
Likes: 5,928
Quoting: basicallyyakupov
100% agree Tage could probably be the best contract in the NHL in the next few years.

But also noting, Tage will never surpass either Marner or Nylander's career high let along both together.


Tage already passed nylanders best season while playing hurt and tage has outscored marner the past two seasons.
May 18, 2023 at 8:20 a.m.
#14
wojohawk
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2018
Posts: 1,110
Likes: 1,452
I only do the Bedard deal if we can get Murray and the Boston 1st for the Tampa 1st because...Toronto fans
exo2769 liked this.
May 18, 2023 at 8:21 a.m.
#15
Ledge_And_Dairy
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 38,668
Likes: 19,767
Quoting: basicallyyakupov
Chicago would turn down this deal? Thought it could go either way, legit top 3 generational talent playing in the league right now. But no problem, Leafs keep.


Obviously Chicago turns it down. 1 year of Matthews does not carry remotely as much value as you seem to think. Matthews doesn't help Chicago tank for more top 5 picks, and he would obviously never sign an extension with a bottom feeder. Whereas Chicago will have Bedard for at least the next 8 years
exo2769, Hockey_Soul and Hawksguy81 liked this.
May 18, 2023 at 8:22 a.m.
#16
Kyle_Davidson
Kyle from Chicago
Avatar of the user
Joined: Feb. 2018
Posts: 9,895
Likes: 5,882
Lmao.
May 18, 2023 at 8:23 a.m.
#17
BUFF36
Avatar of the user
Joined: Apr. 2020
Posts: 5,715
Likes: 4,783
This is a Good one. Toronto fans sharing the Glue Bottle!! How are those Marlies doing ?
Hockey_Soul and gretzkyghosts liked this.
May 18, 2023 at 8:25 a.m.
#18
exo2769
exo2769
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2015
Posts: 15,765
Likes: 9,937
Hawks just wait 1 year and get Matthews for free
BUFF36, RavensShadow, JoeROFLCOPTER and 2 others liked this.
May 18, 2023 at 8:25 a.m.
#19
Hockey_Soul
Be formless
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jan. 2016
Posts: 2,915
Likes: 1,056
Both of these deals are huge wins for TOR, and huge losses for the other teams. Both offers are instantly declined.
RavensShadow liked this.
May 18, 2023 at 8:42 a.m.
#20
JoeROFLCOPTER
Joe
Avatar of the user
Joined: Nov. 2022
Posts: 7,686
Likes: 5,605
Quoting: basicallyyakupov
100% agree Tage could probably be the best contract in the NHL in the next few years.

But also noting, Tage will never surpass either Marner or Nylander's career high let along both together.


"No player will surpass the career highs of two very good players combined."

Would you trade like 7 depth players who have 25 points each for McDavid? Combined, they have more points than McDavid has in a season!
wojme and Greysuits liked this.
May 18, 2023 at 10:00 a.m.
#21
basicallyyakupov
Thread Starter
TML
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 103
Likes: 12
Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
"No player will surpass the career highs of two very good players combined."

Would you trade like 7 depth players who have 25 points each for McDavid? Combined, they have more points than McDavid has in a season!


Agree with what you are saying but that's not what I said.

"Tage will never surpass either Marner or Nylander's career high let along both together."

This means....

Marner's career high > Tage's career high
Nylander's career high > Tage's career high
Marner + Nylander's career high > Tage's career high

Clarified for you
May 18, 2023 at 10:01 a.m.
#22
basicallyyakupov
Thread Starter
TML
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 103
Likes: 12
Quoting: exo2769
Hawks just wait 1 year and get Matthews for free


Oof, max pain scenario
May 18, 2023 at 10:01 a.m.
#23
basicallyyakupov
Thread Starter
TML
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 103
Likes: 12
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Obviously Chicago turns it down. 1 year of Matthews does not carry remotely as much value as you seem to think. Matthews doesn't help Chicago tank for more top 5 picks, and he would obviously never sign an extension with a bottom feeder. Whereas Chicago will have Bedard for at least the next 8 years


Re-read the trade description. Condition implies resign.
May 18, 2023 at 10:02 a.m.
#24
basicallyyakupov
Thread Starter
TML
Avatar of the user
Joined: Aug. 2020
Posts: 103
Likes: 12
Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Obviously Chicago turns it down. 1 year of Matthews does not carry remotely as much value as you seem to think. Matthews doesn't help Chicago tank for more top 5 picks, and he would obviously never sign an extension with a bottom feeder. Whereas Chicago will have Bedard for at least the next 8 years


Re-read trade description

Condition of trade implied Matthews resign.
May 18, 2023 at 10:21 a.m.
#25
Ledge_And_Dairy
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2019
Posts: 38,668
Likes: 19,767
Quoting: basicallyyakupov
Re-read the trade description. Condition implies resign.


1. Why would he re-sign with a team that will be bottom 5 in the league guaranteed?
2. Why would Toronto get more when Chicago is the team signing him to an extension?
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll