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NSH and NYI trade

Created by: MTLaveragefan
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 18, 2023
Published: May 18, 2023
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I'm expecting rocks, as always.

I'm curious on the value of Askarov for NSH when they already have a great #1 who is 28.

As far as Dobson goes - I saw a couple NYI fan trade him for cheap (which would be a mistake). I see him as one of the top young RD in the league.

I think Habs would be better taking Michkov at 5... but if he isn't available - would NYI do this trade?

I doubt it... but who knows.

My opinion :

I'm fair for Askarov, but overpaying slightly for Dobson.
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8$8,500,000
2$1,700,000
2$1,700,000
2$800,000
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1$800,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Askarov, Yaroslav
NSH
  1. Farrell, Sean
  2. Primeau, Cayden
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
2.
MTL
  1. Dobson, Noah
NYI
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
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3.
MTL
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (MTL)
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ARI
  1. Edmundson, Joel
  2. Hoffman, Mike
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2023
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2024
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2025
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23$82,500,000$69,499,166$1,170,000$3,920,000$13,000,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël
$1,700,000$1,700,000
LW, RW
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Suzuki, Nick
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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Caufield, Cole
$8,500,000$8,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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Waivers ExemptSlafkovsky, Juraj
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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Dach, Kirby
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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Anderson, Josh
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 4
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Gurianov, Denis
$1,700,000$1,700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Dvorak, Christian
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
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Gallagher, Brendan
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UFA - 4
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Pitlick, Rem
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Evans, Jake
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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Ylönen, Jesse
$800,000$800,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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Belzile, Alex
$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Armia, Joel
$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Matheson, Michael
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
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UFA - 3
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Dobson, Noah
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
RFA - 2
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Montembeault, Samuel
$1,000,000$1,000,000
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Waivers ExemptGuhle, Kaiden
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
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RFA - 2
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Harris, Jordan
$1,400,000$1,400,000
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RFA - 2
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Allen, Jake
$1,925,000$1,925,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Waivers ExemptXhekaj, Arber
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Savard, David
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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Kovacevic, Johnathan
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Price, Carey
$10,500,000$10,500,000
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May 18, 2023 at 4:24 p.m.
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yeah, i'd trade dobson for michkov and barron. for smith or benson i'd think about it.
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May 18, 2023 at 4:25 p.m.
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Nashville has no reason to trade Askarov. He's our future starter when Saros leaves.
May 18, 2023 at 4:31 p.m.
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Nashville has no ral incitive in this deal to move their futur in net
100% the islanders accept
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May 18, 2023 at 4:39 p.m.
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Quoting: kevinbergeron
Nashville has no ral incitive in this deal to move their futur in net
100% the islanders accept


Yeah, Altought, it might be the habs that would decline... the thing is that MTL has a bigger need for high-end talent at offense than at D.

But I really like Dobson's game... super solid.
May 18, 2023 at 5:03 p.m.
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Quoting: bagelbob
yeah, i'd trade dobson for michkov and barron. for smith or benson i'd think about it.


No shot I’d trade Dobson for smith or benson. Michkov id do.
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May 18, 2023 at 5:08 p.m.
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No way MTL does that trade with NY, Dobson is not good defensively. In the playoffs, I 100% rather have a 15-point D who is very good defensively than a D that gets 60 points but can't defend well, so its not worth trading 5th OA for Dobson if you can get that other D option for a 2nd or late 1st.
May 18, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.
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Great value for Dobson but I think we just keep him. Regressed defensively this year but I'm willing to keep it going and see if his defense comes back. He's still excellent offensively.
May 18, 2023 at 7:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Caufield
No way MTL does that trade with NY, Dobson is not good defensively. In the playoffs, I 100% rather have a 15-point D who is very good defensively than a D that gets 60 points but can't defend well, so its not worth trading 5th OA for Dobson if you can get that other D option for a 2nd or late 1st.


Dobson was very good defensively for the isles in the playoffs. The isles controlled play whenever he was on the ice
May 18, 2023 at 7:39 p.m.
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Dobson was very good defensively for the isles in the playoffs. The isles controlled play whenever he was on the ice


He's paired with some of the best defensive D in the league, playing on a defensive team. Naturally, he isn't good defensively. Now I haven't watch the NYI playoff games, but still
May 18, 2023 at 8:05 p.m.
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Quoting: Caufield
He's paired with some of the best defensive D in the league, playing on a defensive team. Naturally, he isn't good defensively. Now I haven't watch the NYI playoff games, but still


Isles are not a good defensive team
May 19, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Caufield
No way MTL does that trade with NY, Dobson is not good defensively. In the playoffs, I 100% rather have a 15-point D who is very good defensively than a D that gets 60 points but can't defend well, so its not worth trading 5th OA for Dobson if you can get that other D option for a 2nd or late 1st.


Habs are moving toward a fast pace, highly offensive style of hockey - Dobson is better than his defensive play showed this year... and he is still super young.
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