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Marner to CBJ plus FA signings

Created by: jchafe77
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 20, 2023
Published: May 20, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,650,000
2$1,100,000
6$6,000,000
6$6,000,000
5$5,500,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Dumais, Jordan
  2. Jiricek, David
  3. Marchenko, Kirill
  4. 2024 1st round pick (CBJ)
  5. 2025 1st round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
Conditional 2024 1st round pick - TOR will receive CBJ 1st round pick in the 2024 NHL Entry Draft, under the condition if CBJ clinches a playoff spot in the 2023-2024 season. In the event that CBJ does not clinch, TOR will receive CBJ 2nd round pick in the 2024 NHL Entry Draft.

Conditional 2025 1st round pick - TOR will receive CBJ 1st round pick in the 2025 NHL Entry Draft, under the condition that the puck does not fall within the top 10 of the lottery draft. If the pick falls within the top 10 of the lottery. CBJ will send TOR a 2025 2nd round pick and a 2026 1st round pick.
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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Logo of the TOR
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$79,421,783$0$1,850,000$4,078,217

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,500,000$5,500,000
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,650,000$1,650,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1

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May 20, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Put my in the camp, of Marner is NOTa trade material for a poor team with cap.....CBJ in this case. CBJ can sign UFA(s) for the price of Marner and not give up those two picks. This kinda reminds of the disastrous DeBrincat to Ottawa trade. Ottawa gave up good assets....just to finish out of the playoffs, and looks like DeBrincat is headed to UFA.
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May 20, 2023 at 10:44 a.m.
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This is just straight up 🤮 for Columbus, terrible move for the Jackets, hopefully Jarmo would never do something that bad as their GM.
May 20, 2023 at 10:47 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Put my in the camp, of Marner is NOTa trade material for a poor team with cap.....CBJ in this case. CBJ can sign UFA(s) for the price of Marner and not give up those two picks. This kinda reminds of the disastrous DeBrincat to Ottawa trade. Ottawa gave up good assets....just to finish out of the playoffs, and looks like DeBrincat is headed to UFA.


Marners close proximity to UFA, high cap hit and clear desire to only be a Leaf will lower his trade value by quite a bit.

Not saying he's worthless but he isn't getting multiple 1sts and A-prospects.
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May 20, 2023 at 10:53 a.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Marners close proximity to UFA, high cap hit and clear desire to only be a Leaf will lower his trade value by quite a bit.

Not saying he's worthless but he isn't getting multiple 1sts and A-prospects.


You're right. There is a big difference in "trade value". and "value on the ice". Yeah the trade is good for CBJ for immediate on ice value....but trade value? Giving up picks for the 7th highest paid player in the league? I don't feel Marner is the 7th best player in the league
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May 20, 2023 at 11:27 a.m.
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So the Jackets are giving up 3 of their top 4 prospects from a top 3 pool and two more 1sts for 2 years of Marner. It's actually ludicrous how undervalued the Jackets' prospects are by Canadian hockey fans.
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May 20, 2023 at 1:22 p.m.
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Two of those pieces is probably fair, maybe even with retention. But Jiricek shouldn’t be discussed here. He is a top-10 if not top-5 prospect….those guys never get traded.
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May 20, 2023 at 4:22 p.m.
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So the Jackets are giving up 3 of their top 4 prospects from a top 3 pool and two more 1sts for 2 years of Marner. It's actually ludicrous how undervalued the Jackets' prospects are by Canadian hockey fans.


Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Marners close proximity to UFA, high cap hit and clear desire to only be a Leaf will lower his trade value by quite a bit.

Not saying he's worthless but he isn't getting multiple 1sts and A-prospects.


Ya’ll clearly never read the full trade. Its 2 conditional first round picks, and with a high probability that CBJ retains these two 1st round picks. Realistically, it is the 3 prospects, 2024 and 2025 2nd round picks, and a guarenteed 2026 first if the 2024 or 2025 1st rounders do not go back to the Leafs.

You are also forgetting that prospects are magic beans. You dont know if Marchenko will get past 21 goals. You dont know if Jiricek is gonna be a top defender like hes projected, and you certainly dont know if Dumais is gonna be a full time NHL’er. Yet with Marner, you get somebody who is established, and you still keep your 2023 1st rounder, and possibly your next 2024 and 2025 firsts as well.
May 20, 2023 at 5:09 p.m.
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Ya’ll clearly never read the full trade. Its 2 conditional first round picks, and with a high probability that CBJ retains these two 1st round picks. Realistically, it is the 3 prospects, 2024 and 2025 2nd round picks, and a guarenteed 2026 first if the 2024 or 2025 1st rounders do not go back to the Leafs.

You are also forgetting that prospects are magic beans. You dont know if Marchenko will get past 21 goals. You dont know if Jiricek is gonna be a top defender like hes projected, and you certainly dont know if Dumais is gonna be a full time NHL’er. Yet with Marner, you get somebody who is established, and you still keep your 2023 1st rounder, and possibly your next 2024 and 2025 firsts as well.


Bit we do know that Marner is gonna in 2 years and that CBJ aren't winning a cup in that time, maybe even making playoffs, so what's the point? "Bah magic beans" all you want. There's a big difference between magic beans, and a top 3 prospect pool full of guys who are extremely highly touted, have shown growth, ect. Yeah, some of the prospects in the system will disappoint, but only an incompetent GM would completely blow up their rebuild on the basis that prospects are magic beans.
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May 20, 2023 at 7:35 p.m.
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Quoting: jchafe77
Ya’ll clearly never read the full trade. Its 2 conditional first round picks, and with a high probability that CBJ retains these two 1st round picks. Realistically, it is the 3 prospects, 2024 and 2025 2nd round picks, and a guarenteed 2026 first if the 2024 or 2025 1st rounders do not go back to the Leafs.

You are also forgetting that prospects are magic beans. You dont know if Marchenko will get past 21 goals. You dont know if Jiricek is gonna be a top defender like hes projected, and you certainly dont know if Dumais is gonna be a full time NHL’er. Yet with Marner, you get somebody who is established, and you still keep your 2023 1st rounder, and possibly your next 2024 and 2025 firsts as well.


Oh ****, you're totally right. Guess the Jackets should actually be giving up Mateychuk, Johnson, Sillinger, their 3rd OA, and any other player under 22 just to get Marner. What's the point in holding all these magic beans when they can get another ****ing redundant winger?
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