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Created by: joshelkin
Team: 2023-24 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: May 19, 2023
Published: May 22, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$3,000,000
1$775,000
2$2,000,000
1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
NYI
    Future considerations
    CHI
    1. Bailey, Josh
    2. 2025 2nd round pick (NYI)
    Additional Details:
    The Islanders need to shed this cap hit in order to make some meaningful moves
    2.
    NYI
    1. 2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
    2. 2024 3rd round pick (SEA)
    SEA
    1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
    Additional Details:
    Using Seattle as a placeholder because their center depth isn't the strongest. I don't really want to trade Pageau, I think he is a useful player who can be relied on in any situation. But trading him makes sense under the right circumstance: to bring in a scoring winger (next trade)
    3.
    NYI
    1. Hall, Taylor
    Additional Details:
    Isles get a scoring winger using the picks they acquired from the earlier Pageau deal. This also allows Barzal to shift back to his natural center position if needed
    BOS
    1. 2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
    2. 2024 3rd round pick (SEA)
    Additional Details:
    Boston needs to free up space. They have $4.5m in overages carrying over to next season. If they intend on keeping any of Bertuzzi/Orlov/Bergy/Krejci than trading guys like Hall, Reilly or Grzelcyk make some sense.
    4.
    NYI
    1. Durzi, Sean
    Additional Details:
    Isles find another "Romanov" type trade, except this time it's for an offensive defenseman to assist the PP and puck moving effort.
    LAK
    1. 2024 1st round pick (NYI)
    Additional Details:
    The Kings are flush with defenseman and trading one of Durzi/Roy/Walker can all be justified depending on return
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    2024
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    2025
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$83,500,000$82,738,333$0$0$761,667

    Roster

    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
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    $8,500,000$8,500,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 8
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    $775,000$775,000
    LW
    UFA - 1
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    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    LW
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $9,150,000$9,150,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 8
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    C, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    C
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $775,000$775,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $5,750,000$5,750,000
    LD
    NTC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $6,150,000$6,150,000
    RD
    NTC
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LD
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
    $1,700,000$1,700,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    G
    UFA - 4
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $825,000$825,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the New York Islanders
    $863,333$863,333
    RW
    RFA - 1

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    May 22, 2023 at 2:42 p.m.
    #1
    Once a Kings Fan Too
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    I would accept that offer as the Los Angeles GM.
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    May 22, 2023 at 2:44 p.m.
    #2
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    See Bailey to the Hawks often. I think its a trade that makes a ton of sense for both teams. Bailey is still a talented player, just overpaid. Hawks could use some NHL talent, while also taking on salary to hit the floor and getting a draft pick. Islanders need to make moves and changes, this allows that. Plus, its a 2025 pick which lessens the blow for them in theory. Dont hate the other trades, all somewhat reasonable.
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    May 22, 2023 at 2:48 p.m.
    #3
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    Hall is a bad fit for the isles since he doesn’t have great foot speed imo. I’d rather just keep Pageau.
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    May 22, 2023 at 2:50 p.m.
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    Hall isn't a good fit and no way the isles separate Horvat and Brazal. They will play on the same line which creates a hold for the 3rd line center. Pageau has to stay.
    May 22, 2023 at 2:56 p.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    I would accept that offer as the Los Angeles GM.


    Same.
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    May 22, 2023 at 3:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    I would accept that offer as the Los Angeles GM.


    Thirded.

    However to be fair to OP, I think the Kings need to send a 3rd or something back in that offer to make it truly similar to the Romanov trade. Plus I'm not sure Durzi has QUITE the same value that Romanov had.

    Granted, the Islanders aren't picking at 13 in this draft, so there's some value lost in that 1st rounder. But I would love for LA to get back into this year's 1st round.
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    May 22, 2023 at 3:23 p.m.
    #7
    i hate don sweeney
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    i'll take that
    May 22, 2023 at 3:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: Not_Isles5513
    Hall is a bad fit for the isles since he doesn’t have great foot speed imo. I’d rather just keep Pageau.


    Hall is a great skater , you must be thinking about someone else
    May 22, 2023 at 3:45 p.m.
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    Quoting: Nightowl26
    Hall isn't a good fit and no way the isles separate Horvat and Brazal. They will play on the same line which creates a hold for the 3rd line center. Pageau has to stay.


    Hall is elite in transition and a very solid two way player. Isles need more puck carriers.

    Horvat trade is proving to be a bad trade because Barzal is better suited for the center position. He needs the puck on his stick in the middle of the ice
    May 22, 2023 at 3:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: Not_Isles5513
    Hall is a bad fit for the isles since he doesn’t have great foot speed imo. I’d rather just keep Pageau.


    Huh? Hall is one of the better skaters in the NHL. His speed is an asset that allows him to blow past defenders.
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    May 22, 2023 at 4:25 p.m.
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    Quoting: Not_Isles5513
    Hall is a bad fit for the isles since he doesn’t have great foot speed imo. I’d rather just keep Pageau.


    Hall doesn't have great foot speed? What?
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    May 22, 2023 at 4:41 p.m.
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    Quoting: Db1899
    Hall is a great skater , you must be thinking about someone else


    Quoting: bhavikp27
    Hall doesn't have great foot speed? What?


    Quoting: ON3M4N
    Huh? Hall is one of the better skaters in the NHL. His speed is an asset that allows him to blow past defenders.


    Before his injury yeah
    May 22, 2023 at 5:27 p.m.
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    Quoting: Not_Isles5513
    Before his injury yeah


    He’s still an elite skater. He was one of bostons best forwards in the Florida series
    May 22, 2023 at 5:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: Db1899
    He’s still an elite skater. He was one of bostons best forwards in the Florida series


    I’ve never thought of him that way since his injury, but IK he was the best third line left Wing in the league lol.
    May 22, 2023 at 7:06 p.m.
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    Quoting: Not_Isles5513
    I’ve never thought of him that way since his injury, but IK he was the best third line left Wing in the league lol.


    So then you didn't watch him play at all after his injury. He's not a 3rd liner. Calling him a third liner because they were he played on a deep Boston team is like calling Pastrnak a 2nd liner because that's where he played for Boston.
    May 22, 2023 at 7:07 p.m.
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    So then you didn't watch him play at all after his injury. He's not a 3rd liner. Calling him a third liner because they were he played on a deep Boston team is like calling Pastrnak a 2nd liner because that's where he played for Boston.


    I was joking when I said he was the best third line wing in the league. He doesn’t really stand out to me for his skating in Boston tho tbh.
     
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