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Marner for Keller Who says no

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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 23, 2023
Published: May 23, 2023
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May 23, 2023 at 9:03 p.m.
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JT Miller for Hart
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Think Yotes say no. Keller's contract is better, it's going to take a boatload of high quality assets to get him.
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May 23, 2023 at 9:05 p.m.
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Yotes and Shanahan.
May 23, 2023 at 9:05 p.m.
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rickdabeaut
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Considering an Arizona hockey team that already plays in a college arena couldn’t afford an extra 4 bananas per season, Keller is not worth Marner.
May 23, 2023 at 9:05 p.m.
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5 years at $7.1m or 2 years at $10.9, the entire difference in their points were made up on the powerplay, Arizona says no easily.
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May 23, 2023 at 9:07 p.m.
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Doesn’t help the Coyotes. Marner wouldn’t waive for AZ anyways.
May 23, 2023 at 9:08 p.m.
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Quoting: AK50
Think Yotes say no. Keller's contract is better, it's going to take a boatload of high quality assets to get him.


Go on Twitter and say “We want Florida” if you want to insult the Leafs. You went full Forrest Gump with this take.
May 23, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.
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5 years at $7.1m or 2 years at $10.9, the entire difference in their points were made up on the powerplay, Arizona says no easily.


Everyone hates the Leafs players until they are on your team. Take a lap Forrest Gump.
May 23, 2023 at 9:11 p.m.
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Toronto says no pretty quickly. Marner is still handily the better player and everyone talking about the cap hit is making a much bigger deal than it actually is. Marner is only owed around 750K more than Keller per season in his remaining two years.

However, Marner also says no to this deal cause who tf wants to go to Arizona.
May 23, 2023 at 9:14 p.m.
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Everyone hates the Leafs players until they are on your team. Take a lap Forrest Gump.


Why would I need a player to score 85 points for $10.9m when I already have that guy scoring 85 points for $7.1m and for 3 years longer? Flip the teams and they flip stat lines, same caliber player, take a lap Jenny.
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May 23, 2023 at 9:25 p.m.
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Why would I need a player to score 85 points for $10.9m when I already have that guy scoring 85 points for $7.1m and for 3 years longer? Flip the teams and they flip stat lines, same caliber player, take a lap Jenny.


Career averages:

Mitch Marner 90pts, 27 Goals & Selke nominee
Clayton Keller 63 pts, 25 goals

It would terrible for the Leafs to trade him to Salt Lake City
May 23, 2023 at 9:32 p.m.
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Arizona in an interesting place with Keller and Cooley possibly needed to be moved, and 6 and 12 in draft. Probably hockey trade with all ready having so many draftpicks. One team that could actually put a package together for bedard, or add mtl at 5 or wash at 8 and have one wild draft.
May 23, 2023 at 9:43 p.m.
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Quoting: rickdabeaut
Go on Twitter and say “We want Florida” if you want to insult the Leafs. You went full Forrest Gump with this take.


I will say the fans were literally saying We want Boston 5 seconds earlier. I was there
May 23, 2023 at 9:46 p.m.
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Both unless it's before 7/1 Marner doesn't waive. Toronto will want more value.
Arizona isn't giving up one of the better value contracts in the league. Also ,Arizona isn't taking on that big of a contract with the uncertainty.
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May 23, 2023 at 10:29 p.m.
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Arizona declines, why would they trade the cheaper player who's signed for three seasons longer.
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May 23, 2023 at 10:47 p.m.
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Quoting: AK50
Think Yotes say no. Keller's contract is better, it's going to take a boatload of high quality assets to get him.


Like Chychrun?
May 23, 2023 at 10:52 p.m.
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Quoting: rickdabeaut
Go on Twitter and say “We want Florida” if you want to insult the Leafs. You went full Forrest Gump with this take.


What does Arizona want? To play in the playoffs more than once every 10 years? An NHL arena? An owner that isn’t getting arrested? Go to Twitter and hear Keller’s Dad say “We want out of Arizona.”
May 24, 2023 at 8:37 a.m.
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JT Miller for Hart
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Like Chychrun?


No. Keller is better IMO. With Chychrun, the price was far off from what I was saying which was Bernard-Docker, 1st, 2nd, A/B tier prospect but, I think he wanted out and they did him a favour.
Keller is a fantastic player who is really overlooked because he plays on a bad team in the smallest market.
May 24, 2023 at 8:41 a.m.
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Quoting: rickdabeaut
Career averages:

Mitch Marner 90pts, 27 Goals & Selke nominee
Clayton Keller 63 pts, 25 goals

It would terrible for the Leafs to trade him to Salt Lake City


Marner: 26 yo, playing with superstars like Matthews in the market with the most recognition. Has 2 years left on an 11 mil deal.
Keller: 24 yo, playing for a broke team most people didn't think existed, lots of cap, not many NHLers on that team. Has 5 years left on a 7 mil deal. Last year(21-22), has a PLUS on the Yotes, this season was more than a P/G ON THE YOTES; A LOTTERY TEAM.
I'd take Keller any day.
May 24, 2023 at 10:48 a.m.
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Marner: 26 yo, playing with superstars like Matthews in the market with the most recognition. Has 2 years left on an 11 mil deal.
Keller: 24 yo, playing for a broke team most people didn't think existed, lots of cap, not many NHLers on that team. Has 5 years left on a 7 mil deal. Last year(21-22), has a PLUS on the Yotes, this season was more than a P/G ON THE YOTES; A LOTTERY TEAM.
I'd take Keller any day.


Perfect you can keep him then lol and now Leafs don’t have to make a terrible Mitchy trade. Glad I could agree with some Salt Lake City Coyotes fans!
May 24, 2023 at 2:40 p.m.
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No. Keller is better IMO. With Chychrun, the price was far off from what I was saying which was Bernard-Docker, 1st, 2nd, A/B tier prospect but, I think he wanted out and they did him a favour.
Keller is a fantastic player who is really overlooked because he plays on a bad team in the smallest market.


Keller wants out. Ask his Dad.
 
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