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VAN - CHI

Created by: BenningTruther
Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: May 26, 2023
Published: May 26, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$850,000
3$2,250,000
1$850,000
1$775,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$4,750,000
1$1,250,000
4$4,000,000
1$2,000,000
Trades
VAN
  1. Blackwell, Colin
  2. 2023 1st round pick (TBL)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
Additional Details:
chiacago gets a top 6 winger for bedard and Myers who will be able to be flipped at the dealine for an asset. doubt chicago has trouble paying his bonus and they are 20mil below the floor currently
CHI
  1. Boeser, Brock
  2. Myers, Tyler
  3. 2023 1st round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
major cap rellief for van. 11OA for 19 OA and 44 OA (ARZ payed 27,34,45 last year in a worse draft) allows for the cap dump instead of additional picks
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2023
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2024
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2025
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23$83,500,000$76,371,250$850,000$850,000$7,128,750
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
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UFA - 3
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$850,000$850,000
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$883,750$883,750
C
RFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
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UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
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UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
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RFA - 1
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LD
UFA - 4
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 3
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 2

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May 26, 2023 at 4:22 p.m.
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I don't see Allvin dropping 8 spots just to unload on Boeser and Myers. That dump in Chicago isn't going anywhere for a long long time. Detroit will offer you the 17th and your 43rd pick back for Boeser and Myers and the 11th overall pick.
May 26, 2023 at 4:38 p.m.
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I believe CHI would do this deal.
May 26, 2023 at 4:39 p.m.
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Detroit is not adding 12.665 (and another 6.665 next year) in payroll on those 2 players for that much draft capital any more than the Hawks will. Myers at full cost (which if it is '23 picks means the acquiring team is paying his Summer bonus) included means the rumored deal of a flipping the 1st round picks with a 2nd becomes more like a 3rd if not 4th. If Detroit, wants to win that bidding war....congrats and good luck. Plenty of place to spend cap space.
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May 26, 2023 at 4:41 p.m.
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Detroit is not adding 12.665 (and another 6.665 next year) in payroll on those 2 players for that much draft capital any more than the Hawks will. Myers at full cost (which if it is '23 picks means the acquiring team is paying his Summer bonus) included means the rumored deal of a flipping the 1st round picks with a 2nd becomes more like a 3rd if not 4th. If Detroit, wants to win that bidding war....congrats and good luck. Plenty of place to spend cap space.


never mentioned detroit, did you even read the post?
May 26, 2023 at 4:43 p.m.
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Hawks decline. No chance they give up pick #44 AND take Myers full salary as well.
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May 26, 2023 at 4:46 p.m.
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Hawks decline. No chance they give up pick #44 AND take Myers full salary as well.


chicago not exactly strapped for cash and this would be the biggest discount to move up to 11 in a stacked draft in history. you get a young top 6 winger who had 55 pts in a 'down year' and myers who can be flipped at the deadline for some sort of asset. as long as your owner isnt stingy this is your best chance to move up, where you add assets AND move up, while weaponizing your cap. and your gripe is 44OA????
May 26, 2023 at 4:48 p.m.
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Hawks decline. No chance they give up pick #44 AND take Myers full salary as well.


I think they might, give those 2 players a chance to shine up and they would be good trade pieces. Alternatively Myers could be a replacement if say Davidson get a huge offer on Murphy.
May 26, 2023 at 4:48 p.m.
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From everything I’ve heard, cap relief will cost a premium this off-season. If the hawks were to eat $12.6M for Vancouver, we aren’t giving up a 2nd as well just to upgrade our first by 8 spots. That’ll cost Vancouver more
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May 26, 2023 at 4:51 p.m.
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I think they might, give those 2 players a chance to shine up and they would be good trade pieces. Alternatively Myers could be a replacement if say Davidson get a huge offer on Murphy.


No chance. Myers at his full salary is the definition of a cap dump. That Ottawa 2nd becomes the Dallas 3rd at best if Myers at full salary is included. Myers costs a 2nd to dump at his full salary.
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May 26, 2023 at 4:52 p.m.
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From everything I’ve heard, cap relief will cost a premium this off-season. If the hawks were to eat $12.6M for Vancouver, we aren’t giving up a 2nd as well just to upgrade our first by 8 spots. That’ll cost Vancouver more


its not like its oel going back... boeser in not a negative asset and will play top line top pp chicago next year and is still young. myers will be able to be flipped easily at the deadline for an asset. would be the most discounted trade up in history if your owner isnt stingy about aying myers bonus. need 20+ mil to even hit the floor
May 26, 2023 at 4:53 p.m.
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No chance. Myers at his full salary is the definition of a cap dump. That Ottawa 2nd becomes the Dallas 3rd at best if Myers at full salary is included. Myers costs a 2nd to dump at his full salary.


yeah if it were myers on his own... your also getting a young 50+ point winger and moving up in a stacked draft. flip myers for ANYTHING at the deadline next year as long as your owner isnt penny pinching.. shouldnt be with all the season tickets bought
May 26, 2023 at 4:54 p.m.
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chicago not exactly strapped for cash and this would be the biggest discount to move up to 11 in a stacked draft in history. you get a young top 6 winger who had 55 pts in a 'down year' and myers who can be flipped at the deadline for some sort of asset. as long as your owner isnt stingy this is your best chance to move up, where you add assets AND move up, while weaponizing your cap. and your gripe is 44OA????


My gripe is Myers at his full salary. That costs a 2nd to move. Take Myers out and the deal is close. Hawks dont pay two 2nds to move up 8 spots and take Boeser. Canucks need the cap space more than the Hawks need Boeser.
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May 26, 2023 at 4:56 p.m.
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This is bad for Vancouver, Boeser isn't a cap dump no matter how much you all wanna believe the propaganda. Myers is easier moved and will cost less, if anything by waiting 5 days after the draft when his bonus is paid out and some of the UFA D are gone.
To move back from a premium player at 11oa to pick a good player at 19oa will cost Chicago more than Ottawa 2nd. That in of itself is the usual trade value, of an average draft, to move from 19 to 11
May 26, 2023 at 4:59 p.m.
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This is bad for Vancouver, Boeser isn't a cap dump no matter how much you all wanna believe the propaganda. Myers is easier moved and will cost less, if anything by waiting 5 days after the draft when his bonus is paid out and some of the UFA D are gone.
To move back from a premium player at 11oa to pick a good player at 19oa will cost Chicago more than Ottawa 2nd. That in of itself is the usual trade value, of an average draft, to move from 19 to 11


myers bonus is payed sept 15 for some reason or else id agree with you. if allvin think they can get a guy they have ranked 10-12 at 19 and they can get back into the second round i can see him looking at trading down but i agree id rather take our pick of the bunch at 11 than risk it.

and i agree not sure when boeser became a negative asset
May 26, 2023 at 4:59 p.m.
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No chance. Myers at his full salary is the definition of a cap dump. That Ottawa 2nd becomes the Dallas 3rd at best if Myers at full salary is included. Myers costs a 2nd to dump at his full salary.


Guess I might be putting too much value on Boeser, you are probably correct.
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May 26, 2023 at 5:01 p.m.
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My gripe is Myers at his full salary. That costs a 2nd to move. Take Myers out and the deal is close. Hawks dont pay two 2nds to move up 8 spots and take Boeser. Canucks need the cap space more than the Hawks need Boeser.


yes the biggest thing the canucks need is cap space. if chicago wants to move up it is a unique situation with the flat cap where both teams can help each other. chicago needs 20+ mil to even hit the floor so unless your gonna throw money at free agents that will hurt you down the line this deal makes sense for both sides im sorry you dont see that. take all the players out and it would cost chicago way more in picks to move up in this stacked draft
May 26, 2023 at 5:13 p.m.
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yes the biggest thing the canucks need is cap space. if chicago wants to move up it is a unique situation with the flat cap where both teams can help each other. chicago needs 20+ mil to even hit the floor so unless your gonna throw money at free agents that will hurt you down the line this deal makes sense for both sides im sorry you dont see that. take all the players out and it would cost chicago way more in picks to move up in this stacked draft


Thing is take the players out and it's the 19oa and a high 3rd, maybe low second to move up to 11th. So taking the huge cap and real cash would probably make it even less. Look at the Dickinson trade. Chi can get cap nearly anywhere, if it's too rich for VAN then they can pay the cap overage fee, which will be much much more...
May 26, 2023 at 5:17 p.m.
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Thing is take the players out and it's the 19oa and a high 3rd, maybe low second to move up to 11th. So taking the huge cap and real cash would probably make it even less. Look at the Dickinson trade. Chi can get cap nearly anywhere, if it's too rich for VAN then they can pay the cap overage fee, which will be much much more...


they can get cap from anywhere yes. but to get cap (Myers who can be flipped later if your owner isnt penny pinching, shouldnt with szn ticket sales) a young, 50+ pt winger, AND move up in a stacked sraft is a uniquie situation only vancouver and chicago can really do. and ARZ traded up to 11 with 27,34,45 last year in a far worse draft so no, it wont take a high 3rd. 19,44, and a 3rd MAYBE
May 26, 2023 at 5:26 p.m.
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VAN is in no position to make demands, they have to pay to comply with the Cap. They did it to themselves, and it's a sucky situation, especially for the fans. Boeser is the compensation for taking Myers, you are getting Blackwell, 19OA and a 3rd for 11th OA.
May 26, 2023 at 5:27 p.m.
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yes the biggest thing the canucks need is cap space. if chicago wants to move up it is a unique situation with the flat cap where both teams can help each other. chicago needs 20+ mil to even hit the floor so unless your gonna throw money at free agents that will hurt you down the line this deal makes sense for both sides im sorry you dont see that. take all the players out and it would cost chicago way more in picks to move up in this stacked draft


the cap floor is not really an issue. Chicago needs $20M but that's with only 13 contracts locked in! By the time they re-up Kurashev, the lesser Jones, and a few others, they will be one free agent and one bad contract away from the floor. The pressure is on the several teams who would like their bad contract to be the one Chicago takes. ("hello, new Toronto GM. Can you believe what they're expecting us to take on to move up 8 spots in the draft? Get Matt Murray ready . . . we're in for another ex-Leaf goalie.")
May 26, 2023 at 5:47 p.m.
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Thing is take the players out and it's the 19oa and a high 3rd, maybe low second to move up to 11th. So taking the huge cap and real cash would probably make it even less. Look at the Dickinson trade. Chi can get cap nearly anywhere, if it's too rich for VAN then they can pay the cap overage fee, which will be much much more...



To move up from 19 to 11 in typical year is a mid 2nd at least. In this year a stacked year to go from 19 a good player to 11 a premium player is more than a mid 2nd.
May 26, 2023 at 6:04 p.m.
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VAN is in no position to make demands, they have to pay to comply with the Cap. They did it to themselves, and it's a sucky situation, especially for the fans. Boeser is the compensation for taking Myers, you are getting Blackwell, 19OA and a 3rd for 11th OA.


Vancouver will be cap compliant they don't need to move Boeser or Myers. Myers could be moved for a lot less once his bonus is paid and is only owed a mil for the year on 6 mil cap hit. Teams that need to get to the floor and don't want to spend actual money will get him for future considerations. Boeser is a good player and is NOT a throw in. Chicago is desperate to get another top 12 pick in this year's draft and no one wants to move down from a top 12 pick to 19 this year. The difference player quality from 11 to 19 is massive this year. Chicago is in no position to demand a top 12 pick and a player on a 1 yr contact to help them reach the cap floor. They will have to over pay players to get to the cap floor maybe even have to over players on a several year contract which could hamper them down the road.
May 26, 2023 at 6:08 p.m.
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Vancouver will be cap compliant they don't need to move Boeser or Myers. Myers could be moved for a lot less once his bonus is paid and is only owed a mil for the year on 6 mil cap hit. Teams that need to get to the floor and don't want to spend actual money will get him for future considerations. Boeser is a good player and is NOT a throw in. Chicago is desperate to get another top 12 pick in this year's draft and no one wants to move down from a top 12 pick to 19 this year. The difference player quality from 11 to 19 is massive this year. Chicago is in no position to demand a top 12 pick and a player on a 1 yr contact to help them reach the cap floor. They will have to over pay players to get to the cap floor maybe even have to over players on a several year contract which could hamper them down the road.


All is probably true, except Chicago being desperate to move up. They are willing to take on cap if paid well for it.
May 26, 2023 at 6:11 p.m.
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All is probably true, except Chicago being desperate to move up. They are willing to take on cap if paid well for it.


Sure and they will get paid, but not a top 12 pick in this year's draft.
May 26, 2023 at 6:19 p.m.
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Sure and they will get paid, but not a top 12 pick in this year's draft.


We will see on 28 June!
 
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