Not enough for Vancouver. Starts with 19OA.

Canucks pass easily. Garland isn’t negative value and Pearson is an LTIR contract. Replace those two with OEL and Myers if you want 11 without giving up 19

Add the 19OA and the Canucks accept. Pearson is LTIR and Garland is not a cap dump. Gonna cost a lot more to move up and acquire Garland

Ok. Fair enough. Obviously not remotely touching any of these suggestions from the CHI side. Looks like no deal.

Please just stop with these terrible "lets fleece Vancouver trade proposals". You don't trade down in a top heavy draft to get out of a good player on a fine contract. If you're taking bad players then sure. And why wouldn't Chicago take bad contracts to get higher picks? You should. It's called weaponizing cap space. These proposals are just let me see if I can get everything I want for next to nothing.

That’s atrocious for the Canucks. Murray has an NTC.

Pens accept.



Its not a full ntc. 1 year left and he will get playing time on the Hawks to rebuild his image. Doubtful he rejects

VAN, one thing you guys need to factor into all of this is you're getting your '24 2nd back setting you up with the opportunity to offersheet one of your targets whether it's one of NYR's RFA's or Byram. I know it doesn't move the needle much but it's worth taking into consideration.

Have you been living under a rock? Vancouver has been trying to move Garland for almost a year - to the point where they can’t give him away. If he’s not negative value he’s close at this point. Unless there’s some serious retention on his contract, it’s going to take something significant as a sweetener to move him.

Not saying this is the right deal, but the whole league knows he’s available and no one’s biting on it. There’s no positive value to him right now.

And there’s no positive reason to move him when we can move Myers or Boeser instead which also clears more cap room. Moving Garland, especially while his value is lower, would be a huge mistake

That might be your opinion - but Vancouver management has been trying to move him for almost a year. It’s clear they want to move on from him and they’re the ones making the real decisions.

Canucks easily decline. Garland doesn’t have negative value and Pearson is LTIRetired at this point. We aren’t trading pick 11 for a couple of 2nds. We have one of the weakest prospect pools in the league, we simply can’t afford to be trading more 1st round picks.

then they should just keep him and hope he rebounds. it’ll cost less to dump him regardless in the future with fewer years on his deal. the canucks cannot be trading away high picks right now and it’s very possible he has a better year and rebuilds his value next season

As PIT I strongly consider that… the more I think about it I like it… if we could bring back another late pick it would be even better
But at the end of the day we just need to move on from Granlund

Wow, these Vancouver trades down trades just keep on getting worse

VAN fans on here do seem to undervalue the cost of moving cap, and also seem to think they don't have a need to move cap. I agree with them that some of these proposals by hawks fans stink, but as a fan base them seem to have decided that Boeser and Garland both have positive value, Meyers costs a 5th to dump and OEL a 2nd.... "and if you won't come to pour prices we'll keep them all"

VAN is cap strapped and has to move out one of Brock/Garland/Meyers and the whole league knows it. No one is letting them off the hook for free. Don't listen to these guys