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Idea for a blockbuster with OTT from csick

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Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: May 28, 2023
Published: May 28, 2023
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*my initial thought is that OTT would not want to move on from DeBrincat as they just acquired him and paid a hefty price… while pettersson and Rakell have great value as they have good contracts, they are older than the OTT players and I think PIT would have to give up another mid-high level asset such as a 2nd, Poulin, Blomqvist, or one of POJ/SMITH

My purpose with this post was just to see what the team would like if they tried to fit in 2 more big contracts
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$7,250,000
3$950,000
2$850,000
2$850,000
2$800,000
8$4,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$4,500,000
4$5,000,000
3$1,500,000
2$2,500,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
1$850,000
1$850,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Chabot, Thomas
  2. DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]
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From @csick
OTT
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
  2. Rakell, Rickard
  3. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
2.
PIT
OTT
    *my initial thought is that OTT would not want to move on from DeBrincat as they just acquired him and paid a hefty price… while pettersson and Rakell have great value as they have good contracts, they are older than the OTT players and I think PIT would have to give up another mid-high level asset such as a 2nd, Poulin, Blomqvist, or one of POJ/SMITH
    3.
    DET
    1. Petry, Jeff
    2. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
    Additional Details:
    Hoping we can agree while both players are serviceable both contracts are bad but Petrys is worse
    4.
    PIT
    1. 2023 6th round pick (ANA)
    2. 2024 6th round pick (ANA)
    5.
    PIT
    1. 2024 5th round pick (OTT)
    6.
    PIT
    1. Garland, Conor ($1,450,000 retained)
    VAN
    1. 2023 7th round pick (TOR)
    2. 2024 6th round pick (PIT)
    7.
    PIT
    1. Dunn, Vince [RFA Rights]
    SEA
    1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
    2. Poehling, Ryan
    3. 2025 2nd round pick (PIT)
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the ANA
    Logo of the FLA
    2024
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the VGK
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the OTT
    Logo of the ANA
    Logo of the PIT
    2025
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    Logo of the PIT
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$83,500,000$81,488,333$0$0$2,011,667
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $8,700,000$8,700,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    $7,250,000$7,250,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $6,100,000$6,100,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $950,000$950,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $5,125,000$5,125,000
    RW, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $863,333$863,333
    C, LW
    RFA - 1
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 3
    $800,000$800,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $6,100,000$6,100,000
    RD
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    G
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Ottawa Senators
    $8,000,000$8,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 5
    $850,000$850,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $850,000$850,000
    LD/RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $800,000$800,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    $800,000$800,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $3,125,000$3,125,000
    RW, C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $775,000$775,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $775,000$775,000
    RW, LW
    RFA - 1
    Taxi Squad
    Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
    $800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    $850,000$850,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    LD/RD
    UFA

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    May 28, 2023 at 5:12 p.m.
    #1
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    @csick ngl it’s hard to do anything else if pit brings in that much $ it would be less big moves and more around the fringe, low cost, bounce back moves…
    May 28, 2023 at 5:13 p.m.
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    I can't see why the Canucks would consider that.
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    May 28, 2023 at 5:13 p.m.
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    Why would Vancouver do this?
    May 28, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.
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    I don't think you watch the nhl if you think husso contract is bad. Wings pass all day and it will take #14 with nothing coming back to get rid of petry
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    May 28, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.
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    that gets you either cat or Chabot, not both and OTT is most likely not trading Chabot
    May 28, 2023 at 5:17 p.m.
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    Canucks retain 1.5 for 3 years and get nothing back? Heck Garlabd at 3 mil a year is a steal and would surely have quite a lot of value
    May 28, 2023 at 5:21 p.m.
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    I think the Pens would have a really hard time improving the rest of the roster with the added cap hits from that blockbuster. DeBrincat and Chabot are better than Pettersson and Rakell, but the Pens already were top heavy and needed more depth. It's not impossible with this trade, but it gives the Pens much thinner margins. Dunn and Debrincat probably get more money by at least $1M each anyway.
    I doubt we can/will LTIRetire Carter also, so that's another cap roadblock.

    Not a fan of the RHD depth without Petry. I know Schenn had a great playoffs, but his regular season was forgettable at best IMO, and I don't really even want him on the 3rd pair. If Letang is out for a while - or more likely, when - who's moving up to the first pair? I don't trust any of the options there.

    I doubt Seattle accepts, Dunn was their #1 Defenseman this season and probably collects himself a handful of points in the Norris vote. I can't see them selling anytime soon, and Dunn could easily get a better return if they were.
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    May 28, 2023 at 5:25 p.m.
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    Dunn doesn't come close to that cheap after the year he just had
    May 28, 2023 at 5:28 p.m.
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    ??? Detroit does this why?

    I'd consider Petry + 2nd for FC.
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    May 28, 2023 at 5:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
    ??? Detroit does this why?

    I'd consider Petry + 2nd for FC.


    Never knew DET loved Husso… lol

    I’ll do Petry, 2nd for a 5th
    (bc you’ll be able to flip Petry retained at next next years deadline if DET is not in contention… )
    May 28, 2023 at 5:32 p.m.
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    Quoting: Pens3lieve
    Never knew DET loved Husso… lol

    I’ll do Petry, 2nd for a 5th
    (bc you’ll be able to flip Petry retained at next next years deadline if DET is not in contention… )


    He certainly isn't as bad as his stats portray him as. He was one of the better goalies before **** hit the fan.
    Not to mention, better than any goalie that'd be hitting the market.
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    May 28, 2023 at 5:37 p.m.
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    Quoting: buffbry
    I don't think you watch the nhl if you think husso contract is bad. Wings pass all day and it will take #14 with nothing coming back to get rid of petry


    Via MoneyPuck, Husso's GSAx was -14.7 in the regular season - 102nd out of all 107 goalies to play a game. His GSAx/60 is better, but still not great, and below the likes of James Reimer, Dave Rittich, and Petr Mrazek. Is Husso a better goalie than those stats imply? Yes. But it's still telling that they were that bad.

    And you don't watch the NHL if you think it costs that much to move Petry. Petry was an actually good 2nd pairing defenseman this season, who I'd take over every blueliner in Detroit other than Mo right now. He's definitely overpaid and no one's trying to say otherwise, but the 14OA to move him is outright insulting.
    May 28, 2023 at 5:40 p.m.
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    Canucks decline. We aren't retaining on Garland and giving him away for nothing. With that kind of retention we would want a 2nd at minimum.
    May 28, 2023 at 5:45 p.m.
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    Lol come on
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    May 28, 2023 at 5:58 p.m.
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    The Canucks must have another Conor Garland with these garage sale prices
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    May 28, 2023 at 6:01 p.m.
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    Completely unrealistic. This isn’t chel.
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    May 28, 2023 at 6:02 p.m.
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    How often does Rakell play LW ?
    May 28, 2023 at 6:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    How often does Rakell play LW ?


    He was a full time LW in ANA from what I hear before he came to PIT and we moved him to RW
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    May 28, 2023 at 6:09 p.m.
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    Yeah Detroit isn't trading our starting goalie. He was unreal to start the season but a poor defense and large work load didn't help. He would cost more than your second next year for us to trade him since we wouldn't have a goalie, we still need a back to as it is.
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    May 28, 2023 at 6:12 p.m.
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    Quoting: Pens3lieve
    He was a full time LW in ANA from what I hear before he came to PIT and we moved him to RW


    Honestly, I really don't think Ottawa should give up on Chabot.

    Sorry.
    May 28, 2023 at 6:13 p.m.
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    Lol come on


    I thought the obnoxious Petry to Detroit trades would stop once Montreal traded him.
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    May 28, 2023 at 6:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: Haymaker26
    Via MoneyPuck, Husso's GSAx was -14.7 in the regular season - 102nd out of all 107 goalies to play a game. His GSAx/60 is better, but still not great, and below the likes of James Reimer, Dave Rittich, and Petr Mrazek. Is Husso a better goalie than those stats imply? Yes. But it's still telling that they were that bad.

    And you don't watch the NHL if you think it costs that much to move Petry. Petry was an actually good 2nd pairing defenseman this season, who I'd take over every blueliner in Detroit other than Mo right now. He's definitely overpaid and no one's trying to say otherwise, but the 14OA to move him is outright insulting.


    You can keep him and we'll keep our goalie that every single wings fan is happy with and not one person on the planet thinks it's a bad contract
    May 28, 2023 at 6:35 p.m.
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    Quoting: Haymaker26
    Via MoneyPuck, Husso's GSAx was -14.7 in the regular season - 102nd out of all 107 goalies to play a game. His GSAx/60 is better, but still not great, and below the likes of James Reimer, Dave Rittich, and Petr Mrazek. Is Husso a better goalie than those stats imply? Yes. But it's still telling that they were that bad.

    And you don't watch the NHL if you think it costs that much to move Petry. Petry was an actually good 2nd pairing defenseman this season, who I'd take over every blueliner in Detroit other than Mo right now. He's definitely overpaid and no one's trying to say otherwise, but the 14OA to move him is outright insulting.





    Lol. He is MUCH better than those stats imply, but keep on living with stuff at face value.
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    May 28, 2023 at 6:38 p.m.
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    Like the Husso slander needsta stop.


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    May 28, 2023 at 6:45 p.m.
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    Seattle politely declines your trade offer. Vince Dunn isn't getting moved, he's their top defenseman coming off a breakout season for a contending team and is primed for a long-term extension that will easily top $4.75M per year. Replacing what he provides for the Kraken would be borderline impossible. For a team looking to win, downgrading from Dunn to POJ in exchange for a couple of pieces who won't help the team win for a couple of years at least isn't worth it.
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