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Vancouver Fans yes or no

Created by: RicXX
Team: 2023-24 Chicago Blackhawks
Initial Creation Date: May 27, 2023
Published: May 29, 2023
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According to Vancouver fans this is what it would take to move up in picks. It does however solve the Canucks cap issues.

Obviously a bit of a tounge in cheek Lindros style post.

Who else wants to post a massive trade for 1st OA, as we all know it's not happening.
Trades
CHI
  1. Hughes, Quinn
  2. Pettersson, Elias
  3. Podkolzin, Vasily
  4. 2023 1st round pick (VAN)
  5. 2024 1st round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. 2023 1st round pick (CHI)
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2023
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2024
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17$83,500,000$58,705,123$0$1,355,000$24,794,877
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
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$758,333$758,333
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RFA - 1
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$758,333$758,333
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RFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
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$3,800,000$3,800,000
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UFA - 1
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
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May 29, 2023 at 8:41 p.m.
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I don’t think so. Is any player in the league worth this package?
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May 29, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.
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Yeah no shot, there's not even a guarantee that Bedard will be better than Petey alone never mind the other pieces here
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May 29, 2023 at 8:45 p.m.
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No thanks, Bedard will be good but he isn't worth a top 5 center and a top 10 dman plus 2 high draft picks. I don't even think McDavid would get this type of return
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May 29, 2023 at 8:58 p.m.
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It's a no. Trading two young and great players on top of very high draft picks for one player is a bad strategy.
Now if it were Pett and Hughes for Bedard, it would be much closer.
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May 29, 2023 at 9:00 p.m.
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No team could build a package that could make Chicago trade this pick. That isn’t hyperbole - not a single team.
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May 29, 2023 at 9:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Victor24
It's a no. Trading two young and great players on top of very high draft picks for one player is a bad strategy.
Now if it were Pett and Hughes for Bedard, it would be much closer.


Hmmm interesting... lol
May 29, 2023 at 9:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
No team could build a package that could make Chicago trade this pick. That isn’t hyperbole - not a single team.


It's just for fun, let's see what they offer...

I am a Hawks fan, and I can't wait to see Bedard pull the sweater over his head!
May 29, 2023 at 9:02 p.m.
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The fact that the Blackhawks had such a surge of ticket sales within 24 hours of the announcement makes this an untradeable asset. No chance no way.

Quoting: theleano1
No thanks, Bedard will be good but he isn't worth a top 5 center and a top 10 dman plus 2 high draft picks. I don't even think McDavid would get this type of return
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May 29, 2023 at 9:10 p.m.
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I get this is hypothetical...so it's not going to happen.

Still though. This shows the how niave VAN fans are. Even with those players on the team...VAN is just not good at hockey. They have those players and are still 2-3 pieces away from contending for the playoffs let alone legit CUP contenders. I dont see how getting these players helps CHI win a cup.

Hawks can't do this for all of the reasons. Understood its hypothetical. The amswer still has to be no.
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May 29, 2023 at 9:15 p.m.
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Quoting: exo2769
I get this is hypothetical...so it's not going to happen.

Still though. This shows the how niave VAN fans are. Even with those players on the team...VAN is just not good at hockey. They have those players and are still 2-3 pieces away from contending for the playoffs let alone legit CUP contenders. I dont see how getting these players helps CHI win a cup.

Hawks can't do this for all of the reasons. Understood its hypothetical. The amswer still has to be no.


What point is this even trying to prove? This makes 0 sense
May 29, 2023 at 9:16 p.m.
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Maximum offer from VAN would be a 2023 first and Pettersson. Would that be accepted, no. But theres not a world where they offer more
May 29, 2023 at 9:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Warpbox
What point is this even trying to prove? This makes 0 sense


That the Hawks would be absolutely stupid to do this. They'll go from ~worst team to...~10th worst team, but still not playoff contenders.
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May 29, 2023 at 9:24 p.m.
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That the Hawks would be absolutely stupid to do this. They'll go from ~worst team to...~10th worst team, but still not playoff contenders.


Connor Bedard doesn't make the Hawks contenders either. Luckily for the Hawks they'd be getting a top 5 pick the year after, a top 12 pick this year, and a former top 10 pick. This is horrible for VAN
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May 29, 2023 at 9:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
No team could build a package that could make Chicago trade this pick. That isn’t hyperbole - not a single team.


i mean this is a textbook example.of an hyperbole but whatever. im sure if anaheim would send pick #2 + their best prospect it would be a no brainer.
May 29, 2023 at 9:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
makes this an untradeable asset. No chance no way.


I mean so is Pettersson and Hughes
May 29, 2023 at 9:40 p.m.
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That’s great for the Canucks, both can be true

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I mean so is Pettersson and Hughes
May 29, 2023 at 9:41 p.m.
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No it would not

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i mean this is a textbook example.of an hyperbole but whatever. im sure if anaheim would send pick #2 + their best prospect it would be a no brainer.
May 29, 2023 at 9:49 p.m.
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No it would not


well i was sceptical, but your argument really convinced me.
May 29, 2023 at 9:51 p.m.
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How do you sell fans who spent over $5m in ticket sales in less than 24 hours after the draft lottery they aren’t getting Bedard?

Quoting: drambui
well i was sceptical, but your argument really convinced me.
May 29, 2023 at 9:52 p.m.
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Well if Bedard turns out to be like Crosby then I'd definitely say yes but the risk is too high and could potentially set us back half a decade or even more depending on how Bedard develops, IMO the only player you make that type of deal for is McDavid.
May 29, 2023 at 10:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
No team could build a package that could make Chicago trade this pick. That isn’t hyperbole - not a single team.


Quoting: Caniac555
The fact that the Blackhawks had such a surge of ticket sales within 24 hours of the announcement makes this an untradeable asset. No chance no way.


That just means they would need to be getting a player who is just as marketable which would be McDavid or Matthews. I don't think CHI would take any package with Matthews for Bedard since currently there's the prospect of CHI potentially having both if Matthews tests FA.

McDavid on the other hand has 3-years until UFA which is a whole lot less than 8-years of potentially having Bedard, but it's possible that could be offset in a multipiece deal. The base of the deal though would have to be a 1 for 1 for either side to even consider.

I think Zegras+2OV would be a compelling offer as well but still not enough to pull the trigger with confidence.

A package around Jack Hughes might be enough assuming he's marketable enough, especially if it's Jack+Luke Hughes for Bedard.
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May 29, 2023 at 10:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
How do you sell fans who spent over $5m in ticket sales in less than 24 hours after the draft lottery they aren’t getting Bedard?


a better team with a better future.
May 30, 2023 at 7:50 a.m.
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Connor Bedard doesn't make the Hawks contenders either. Luckily for the Hawks they'd be getting a top 5 pick the year after, a top 12 pick this year, and a former top 10 pick. This is horrible for VAN


But, Bedard also doesn't make CHI good enough to be out of the running for more top 10 picks over the next few years.
May 30, 2023 at 9:47 a.m.
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But, Bedard also doesn't make CHI good enough to be out of the running for more top 10 picks over the next few years.


Sure, but now you're getting the same high picks from Vancouver
May 30, 2023 at 6:05 p.m.
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That just means they would need to be getting a player who is just as marketable which would be McDavid or Matthews. I don't think CHI would take any package with Matthews for Bedard since currently there's the prospect of CHI potentially having both if Matthews tests FA.

McDavid on the other hand has 3-years until UFA which is a whole lot less than 8-years of potentially having Bedard, but it's possible that could be offset in a multipiece deal. The base of the deal though would have to be a 1 for 1 for either side to even consider.

I think Zegras+2OV would be a compelling offer as well but still not enough to pull the trigger with confidence.

A package around Jack Hughes might be enough assuming he's marketable enough, especially if it's Jack+Luke Hughes for Bedard.


Love your lines of thinking here, that's what I make these critical thinking posts for.

The Lindros effect, could the return be equal or better than what is being given up.
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