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Created by: MoSeider53

Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: May 30, 2023

Published: May 30, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Accurate/Prorated

LTIR Enabled: No

Season Days: 186

Days Remaining: 185

Season Remaining: 99%

Projected Cap Hit Prior To Days Remaining

: $52,834,722

Description

Yzerman Signs Joe Veleno at the same contract as Michael Rasmussen 3 x $1,460,000

Detroit trades for Alex DeBrincat for the Islander 17th overall Vancouver 43rd overall and Cross Hanas extends him for 8 x 8,500,000,

Carter Mazur, Marco Kasper and Simon Edvinsson all make the opening night roster.

Albert Johansson and Antti Tuomisto are 7th and 8th Dmen. Johansson is a filler if Edvinsson is still out when the season begins.

Detroit signs Cam Talbot for 2 x $2,500,000 as Husso's backup. Yzerman signs Radko Gudas meant 3 x $2,750,000 not 2 years.

We draft Oliver Moore at 9th overall and he plays at the University of Minnesota for 2 seasons. ETA 2025/2026 NHL season

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Veleno, Joseph		3	$1,460,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Chiasson, Alex		1	$950,000
Gudas, Radko		3	$3,750,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
DeBrincat, Alex		8	$8,500,000
Moore, Oliver		3	$950,000

Trades

DET

DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]

Additional Details:

Detroit extends Cat 8 x $8,500,000

OTT

Hanas, Cross
2023 1st round pick (NYI)
2023 2nd round pick (VAN)

DET

2024 4th round pick (STL)

Additional Details:

Unfortunately that's probably the best offer we'll get for Zadina.

STL

Zadina, Filip

Additional Details:

Can be any team.

DET

Vladar, Daniel

Additional Details:

Trade for Vlader instead of signing a backup.

CGY

2024 3rd round pick (DET)

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $1,055,556

Retained Salary Transactions

Jakub Vrána: $2,625,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$71,372,849	$0	$5,455,000	$12,127,151

Prorated Cap Hit

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
DeBrincat, Alex $8,500,000$8,454,301	Larkin, Dylan $8,700,000$8,653,226 C NTC UFA - 8	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$920,027 ($2,500,000$2M) RW, LW RFA - 1
Kubalik, Dominik $2,500,000$2,486,559 LW, RW UFA - 1	Copp, Andrew $5,625,000$5,594,758 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Perron, David $4,750,000$4,724,462 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Mazur, Carter $905,833$900,963 ($57,500$58K) LW RFA - 3	Kasper, Marco $918,333$913,396 ($1,000,000$1M) C RFA - 3	Berggren, Jonatan $925,000$920,027 RW, LW RFA - 1
Söderblom, Elmer $878,333$873,611 ($57,500$58K) LW, C RFA - 2	Veleno, Joseph $1,460,000$1,452,151 C RFA - 1	Rasmussen, Michael $1,460,000$1,452,151 LW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Walman, Jake $3,400,000$3,381,720 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Seider, Moritz $863,333$858,691 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 1	Husso, Ville $4,750,000$4,724,462 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Edvinsson, Simon $894,167$889,360 ($850,000$850K) LD RFA - 3	Chiarot, Ben $4,750,000$4,724,462 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Vladar, Daniel $2,200,000$2,188,172 G UFA - 2
Määttä, Olli $3,000,000$2,983,871 LD UFA - 2	Gudas, Radko $3,750,000$3,729,839 RD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Johansson, Albert $820,000$815,591 ($82,500$82K) LD RFA - 1	Fabbri, Robby $4,000,000$3,978,495 LW UFA - 2
Tuomisto, Antti $867,500$862,836 ($57,500$58K) RD RFA - 2
Chiasson, Alex $950,000$944,892 RW UFA

May 30, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.

NDoody

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Gonna need more for Debrincat.

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May 30, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.

MoSeider53

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Quoting: NDoody

Gonna need more for Debrincat.

Sorry that's more than what Ottawa paid, That's an equivalent of 1st and 2 2nds. Way more enough for Cat. And both fan bases said it was a fair offer.

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May 30, 2023 at 12:35 p.m.

NDoody

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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

Sorry that's more than what Ottawa paid, That's an equivalent of 1st and 2 2nds. Way more enough for Cat. And both fan bases said it was a fair offer.

The prospect needs to be better the pieces are there. I would rate Hanas as a 3rd at best.

May 30, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.

AlTintin1122

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Quoting: NDoody

Gonna need more for Debrincat.

It’s probably close. Hanas looks like another Greig type of player maybe just a step below. And if the Sens flip 17th and something small could probably get Hart

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May 30, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.

JoeROFLCOPTER

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Quoting: NDoody

The prospect needs to be better the pieces are there. I would rate Hanas as a 3rd at best.

Still more than what Detroit should have to pay lol

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May 30, 2023 at 12:38 p.m.

PuzzledActuary

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is that a serious offer for DeBrincat?

May 30, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.

MoSeider53

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Quoting: NDoody

The prospect needs to be better the pieces are there. I would rate Hanas as a 3rd at best.

Even so, It's still the equivalent of what Ottawa gave up for him, At this point he's a one year rental. And we hope we can extend him if he definitely wants to sign with his childhood team.

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May 30, 2023 at 12:41 p.m.

JoeROFLCOPTER

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Quoting: Datsyukian13

is that a serious offer for DeBrincat?

You and HockeyIsMyPassion61 are the "Immovable Object meets the Unstoppable Force" on this website.

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May 30, 2023 at 12:41 p.m.

Tintin

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Sens are better off keeping DeBrincat until TDL if this is the best teams around the league are offering for trade.

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May 30, 2023 at 12:43 p.m.

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PuzzledActuary

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

You and HockeyIsMyPassion61 are the "Immovable Object meets the Unstoppable Force" on this website.

I mean this is insane haha he's a 25 year old RFA that has scored 40 and 30 goals in the league.

They traded a #7 overall for him...this offer is pathetic. And then has the audacity to pay him $8.5M a year lol

May 30, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.

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JoeROFLCOPTER

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Quoting: Datsyukian13

I mean this is insane haha he's a 25 year old RFA that has scored 40 and 30 goals in the league.

They traded a #7 overall for him...this offer is pathetic.

Do you think 7OA in 2022 is the same as 7OA in 2023?
They paid that much for a contract that will be about 2 mil less in AAV. Not to mention, he recessed this year.

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May 30, 2023 at 12:46 p.m.

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Devil

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Edited May 30, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.

Sorry but those scraps don’t get you DeBrincat.

And no chance Debrincat extends long term in a dump like Detroit laugh

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He wants to go to a contender like New Jersey

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PuzzledActuary

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Do you think 7OA in 2022 is the same as 7OA in 2023?
They paid that much for a contract that will be about 2 mil less in AAV. Not to mention, he recessed this year.

Huh? The offer here is a middling prospect (at best), a late first and a 2nd. There is no value here.

But yes, a top 10 overall pick is WAY different than closer to 20...like night and day different.

May 30, 2023 at 12:47 p.m.

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JoeROFLCOPTER

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Quoting: Datsyukian13

Huh? The offer here is a middling prospect (at best), a late first and a 2nd. There is no value here.

Late? This is 17OA.

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May 30, 2023 at 12:51 p.m.

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Quoting: Datsyukian13

Like Korchinski D0 is worse than Dragicevic's, and he's projected to go later AND is at a more premium position. I don't think 7OA is equivalent to like 25 but I sure as hell don't think it's that different from 17 this year.

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May 30, 2023 at 12:52 p.m.

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Late? This is 17OA.

Ya, why does OTT do that? The odds of a 17OA pick being a 40 goal scorer in the league is almost 0...

May 30, 2023 at 12:52 p.m.

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zadinaveleno

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Quoting: NDoody

Gonna need more for Debrincat.

You're not going to get more than this though....That's fair value.

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May 30, 2023 at 12:52 p.m.

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PuzzledActuary

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

It's hugely different. Huge.

Again, the question is WHY would OTT do that? They will almost certainly get a better offer.

May 30, 2023 at 12:53 p.m.

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JoeROFLCOPTER

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Quoting: Datsyukian13

Ya, why does OTT do that? The odds of a 17OA pick being a 40 goal scorer in the league is almost 0...

Why draft at all? I think Detroit should trade 9OA for Jamie Benn. The odds of 9OA being an Art Ross winner is almost 0.

May 30, 2023 at 12:54 p.m.

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JoeROFLCOPTER

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Quoting: Datsyukian13

It's hugely different. Huge.

Again, the question is WHY would OTT do that? They will almost certainly get a better offer.

Then let them take that offer lol. This is as much as I hope Detroit is willing to pay, so if a team pays more good for Ottawa lol.

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May 30, 2023 at 12:55 p.m.

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Late? This is 17OA.

That dude is delusional, 2023 17OA > 2022 7OA Love how he said the pick is late 17OA+43OA+Cross Hanas is a solid offer for a one year RFA in DeBrincat it's more than what Ottawa paid for 2 years of Cat. Compared to the 2022 NHL draft the 2023 draft blows it away by a country mile.

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May 30, 2023 at 12:57 p.m.

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PuzzledActuary

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Why draft at all? I think Detroit should trade 9OA for Jamie Benn. The odds of 9OA being an Art Ross winner is almost 0.

Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Then let them take that offer lol. This is as much as I hope Detroit is willing to pay, so if a team pays more good for Ottawa lol.

That's called a straw man argument - doesn't work. Also just simply not true.

What you hope they're willing to pay and what OTT would accept are two different things. This offer is a joke.

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SevenLeg

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That offer for DeBrincat is easily beaten.

laugh

You're at least $1,000,000 short on Gudas

Also Cam Talbot is aging and wants to win in the near future, so he's not signing in Detroit.

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May 30, 2023 at 12:58 p.m.

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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61

lol...you're a robot

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Yeah after the top 6 of like Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Smith, Michkov and Benson, I do think there’s a drop off

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