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20232024 NHL Season opening night lineup

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Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: May 30, 2023
Published: May 30, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR Enabled: No
Season Days: 186
Days Remaining: 185
Season Remaining: 99%
Projected Cap Hit Prior To Days Remaining Tooltip : $52,834,722
Description
Yzerman Signs Joe Veleno at the same contract as Michael Rasmussen 3 x $1,460,000

Detroit trades for Alex DeBrincat for the Islander 17th overall Vancouver 43rd overall and Cross Hanas extends him for 8 x 8,500,000,

Carter Mazur, Marco Kasper and Simon Edvinsson all make the opening night roster.

Albert Johansson and Antti Tuomisto are 7th and 8th Dmen. Johansson is a filler if Edvinsson is still out when the season begins.

Detroit signs Cam Talbot for 2 x $2,500,000 as Husso's backup. Yzerman signs Radko Gudas meant 3 x $2,750,000 not 2 years.

We draft Oliver Moore at 9th overall and he plays at the University of Minnesota for 2 seasons. ETA 2025/2026 NHL season
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,460,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$950,000
3$3,750,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
DeBrincat, Alex
8$8,500,000
Moore, Oliver
3$950,000
Trades
1.
DET
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Detroit extends Cat 8 x $8,500,000
OTT
  1. Hanas, Cross
  2. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
2.
DET
  1. 2024 4th round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
Unfortunately that's probably the best offer we'll get for Zadina.
STL
  1. Zadina, Filip
Additional Details:
Can be any team.
3.
DET
  1. Vladar, Daniel
Additional Details:
Trade for Vlader instead of signing a backup.
CGY
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (DET)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$71,372,849$0$4,455,000$12,127,151
Prorated Cap Hit

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
DeBrincat, Alex
$8,500,000$8,454,301
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$8,700,000$8,653,226
C
NTC
UFA - 8
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$925,000$920,027 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,486,559
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,594,758
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,750,000$4,724,462
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$905,833$900,963 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW
RFA - 3
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$918,333$913,396
C
RFA - 4
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$925,000$920,027
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$878,333$873,611 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$1,460,000$1,452,151
C
RFA - 1
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$1,460,000$1,452,151
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,400,000$3,381,720
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$863,333$858,691 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,724,462
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$894,167$889,360 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 3
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$4,750,000$4,724,462
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,200,000$2,188,172
G
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$2,983,871
LD
UFA - 2
$3,750,000$3,729,839
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$820,000$815,591 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$4,000,000$3,978,495
LW
UFA - 2
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$867,500$862,836 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$950,000$944,892
RW
UFA

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Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:20 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
By the way guys, this is a huge indicator that he's just yanking our strings!!!!


The dudes been drinking too much, Moritz Seider > Luke Hughes. Not sure how this thread all of a sudden became about New Jersey and Detroit.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:21 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
The dudes been drinking too much, Moritz Seider > Luke Hughes. Not sure how this thread all of a sudden became about New Jersey and Detroit.


Luke Hughes is a much better skater and much more offensively gifted. Potential to be a BETTER quinn hughes. Seider just doesn't have that potential
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:27 p.m.
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Quoting: JhonnyCanuck5
Well we have the stud D core, I’d argue with more potential than NJ’s already.
Finding that generational talent will be a challenge without the league giving us 2 lottery wins but I imagine they make up for it in depth and elite drafting. And the goalie is on the way. Not to mention, quite a bit of cap space (finally, starting last year) to work with so a trade for a guy like Keller or Connor is possible.

In 2-3 years we should see something like

Cossa
Husso

Edvinsson-Seider
Wallinder-Johansson
Walman- one of the other young guys or a FA guy.
(Chiarot traded or bought out)

Some combination of:
Trade or 9OA- Larkin- Raymond
Mazur-Kasper-17OA or FA or trade
Rasmussen-Copp-Berggren
Zadina- Veleno- Soderblom


Looking at that I see a worse Dcore than NJD, and still nobody to match Hughes, Bratt, and Meier. As well as the fact that Hischier+Mercer is a much better combo than Raymond+Larkin
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:32 p.m.
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Looking at that I see a worse Dcore than NJD, and still nobody to match Hughes, Bratt, and Meier. As well as the fact that Hischier+Mercer is a much better combo than Raymond+Larkin


Yes bait more; i need entertainment so I can stay awake for a call.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:39 p.m.
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Looking at that I see a worse Dcore than NJD, and still nobody to match Hughes, Bratt, and Meier. As well as the fact that Hischier+Mercer is a much better combo than Raymond+Larkin


Please. Getting sleepy.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:40 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Yes bait more; i need entertainment so I can stay awake for a call.


"Bait" out of 172 lines who played at least 120 minutes together, Tatar-Mercer-Hischier ranked 6th in xGoals%
1st: Hughes Haula Bratt (70%)
2nd: Aho Jarvis Svechnikov]
3rd: Marchand Pastrnak Bergeron
4th: Mangiapane Backlund Coleman
5th: Hischier Zetterlund Tatar
6th: Hischier Mercer Tatar (65%
109th: Raymond Larkin Perron (50%)
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:40 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
"Bait" out of 172 lines who played at least 120 minutes together, Tatar-Mercer-Hischier ranked 6th in xGoals%
1st: Hughes Haula Bratt (70%)
2nd: Aho Jarvis Svechnikov]
3rd: Marchand Pastrnak Bergeron
4th: Mangiapane Backlund Coleman
5th: Hischier Zetterlund Tatar
6th: Hischier Mercer Tatar (65%
109th: Raymond Larkin Perron (50%)


More! More!!
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:45 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
"Bait" out of 172 lines who played at least 120 minutes together, Tatar-Mercer-Hischier ranked 6th in xGoals%
1st: Hughes Haula Bratt (70%)
2nd: Aho Jarvis Svechnikov]
3rd: Marchand Pastrnak Bergeron
4th: Mangiapane Backlund Coleman
5th: Hischier Zetterlund Tatar
6th: Hischier Mercer Tatar (65%
109th: Raymond Larkin Perron (50%)


Nevermind I've got this
Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:54 p.m.
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Luke Hughes is a much better skater and much more offensively gifted. Potential to be a BETTER quinn hughes. Seider just doesn't have that potential


Imagine saying that Seider “doesn’t have that potential” 😂
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:58 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Looking at that I see a worse Dcore than NJD, and still nobody to match Hughes, Bratt, and Meier. As well as the fact that Hischier+Mercer is a much better combo than Raymond+Larkin


We get it, you know nothing about Detroit’s prospects. That’s ok. But statistically, Larkin and Raymond are better than Hischier and Mercer. But that’s only if you look at goals, assists, and defense. I’m sure Hischier and Mercer are better at other things.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 9:58 p.m.
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Quoting: JhonnyCanuck5
Imagine saying that Seider “doesn’t have that potential” 😂


Seider simply isn't a good enough skater to have that potential. Sieder is better now yes and has a much higher floor (due to proving it already), but after taking a step backwards this year instead of forwards, no I don't see him having perennial Norris contender potential.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:02 p.m.
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Seider simply isn't a good enough skater to have that potential. Sieder is better now yes and has a much higher floor (due to proving it already), but after taking a step backwards this year instead of forwards, no I don't see him having perennial Norris contender potential.


Is it true that Quebec City has better bagels than NJ?
Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:04 p.m.
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You’re all over the map. He has drafted 4 times… without the luck… and has Seider, Raymond, Edvinsson, and Kasper. That pretty solid. Aka he didn’t need the luck to still bring in good players. He also found some second rounders that have real potential, and has a steal in Soderblom.

The free agent signings were meant to show he will bring in players to make the team more competitive, and they were. With no Bert/Vrana, and the multitude of injuries the Wings were still in the hunt and had a wildcard spot late in the season before falling off a cliff. Next season should probably have similar results with a few more wins.

I was simply stating it would be nice to have one draft in which Detroit moves up, which NJ should relate to considering how their luck has gone.


And I'm simply stating that Fitzgerald is a good GM even without lottery luck
Drafting Mercer
Signing Hamilton
Trading for Marino and Graves
and more

Turned the Devils into contenders in two years
Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:06 p.m.
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Is it true that Quebec City has better bagels than NJ?


Dudes delusional, Seiders skating is in the top echelon among most of the Dmen in the NHL.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:07 p.m.
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Imagine saying that Seider “doesn’t have that potential” 😂


This dude is just making himself the laughing stock on Capfriendly.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:09 p.m.
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We get it, you know nothing about Detroit’s prospects. That’s ok. But statistically, Larkin and Raymond are better than Hischier and Mercer. But that’s only if you look at goals, assists, and defense. I’m sure Hischier and Mercer are better at other things.


The dudes been drinking too much.

Larkin > Hischier Raymond > Mercer.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:10 p.m.
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Seider simply isn't a good enough skater to have that potential. Sieder is better now yes and has a much higher floor (due to proving it already), but after taking a step backwards this year instead of forwards, no I don't see him having perennial Norris contender potential.


“Took a step backwards” means averaging .64 PPG once they unpaired him from Chiarot.
Thats on pace for 52.5 points/82 games on a team that struggled to score. Not to mention being a plus defender. You may be the only hockey fan who doesn’t think Seider has the potential to be a consistent Norris finalist.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Devil
And I'm simply stating that Fitzgerald is a good GM even without lottery luck
Drafting Mercer
Signing Hamilton
Trading for Marino and Graves
and more

Turned the Devils into contenders in two years


No one is saying Fitz isn’t a good GM. We’re only saying he has gotten more luck, he walked into a team with Hischier and Hughes, and he isn’t better than Yzerman based on Yzerman’s track record(see his draft record and see Tampa).
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:13 p.m.
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Quoting: JhonnyCanuck5
We get it, you know nothing about Detroit’s prospects. That’s ok. But statistically, Larkin and Raymond are better than Hischier and Mercer. But that’s only if you look at goals, assists, and defense. I’m sure Hischier and Mercer are better at other things.

Lets look at this year
Goal Scoring:
Nico and Mercer: 58 combined (34 at 5v5)
Larkin and Raymond: 49 combined (19 at 5v5)
Assists:
Total:
Nico and Mercer: 78 (48 at 5v5)
Larkin and Raymond: 75 (33 at 5v5)
Primary Assists:
Nico and Mercer: 49 (33 at 5v5)
Larkin and Raymond: 36 (21 at 5v5)

So right off the bat you're wrong about Goals and Assists:
Let's move onto defense:
Basic:
+/-
Nico and Mercer: +55
Larkin and Raymond: -24
Nico: Selke Nominee, kills penalties, 59.6% xGoals at 5v5
Mercer: also kills penalties, 55.8% xGoals at 5v5
Larkin: kills penalties, 49.3% xGoals at 5v5
Raymond: does not kill penalties, 43.4% xGoals at 5v5 (yikes)

Advanced:
Nico: 2.3 xDef,
Mercer: 0 xDef
Raymond: NEGATIVE 1.8 xDef
Larkin: NEGATIVE 0.3 xDef
(in general the advanced stats say nico and mercer are better with a combined xWAR of 3.7 compared to 2.5 for Raymond and Larkin)

So you were wrong on all 3 points. Congrats
Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:14 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
The dudes been drinking too much.

Larkin > Hischier Raymond = Mercer.


I disagree. The stats say that Raymond is better than Mercer.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:16 p.m.
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Quoting: JhonnyCanuck5
“Took a step backwards” means averaging .64 PPG once they unpaired him from Chiarot.
Thats on pace for 52.5 points/82 games on a team that struggled to score. Not to mention being a plus defender. You may be the only hockey fan who doesn’t think Seider has the potential to be a consistent Norris finalist.


Took a step back meaning his advanced metrics were much worse than last year.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:18 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Lets look at this year
Goal Scoring:
Nico and Mercer: 58 combined (34 at 5v5)
Larkin and Raymond: 49 combined (19 at 5v5)
Assists:
Total:
Nico and Mercer: 78 (48 at 5v5)
Larkin and Raymond: 75 (33 at 5v5)
Primary Assists:
Nico and Mercer: 49 (33 at 5v5)
Larkin and Raymond: 36 (21 at 5v5)

So right off the bat you're wrong about Goals and Assists:
Let's move onto defense:
Basic:
+/-
Nico and Mercer: +55
Larkin and Raymond: -24
Nico: Selke Nominee, kills penalties, 59.6% xGoals at 5v5
Mercer: also kills penalties, 55.8% xGoals at 5v5
Larkin: kills penalties, 49.3% xGoals at 5v5
Raymond: does not kill penalties, 43.4% xGoals at 5v5 (yikes)

Advanced:
Nico: 2.3 xDef,
Mercer: 0 xDef
Raymond: NEGATIVE 1.8 xDef
Larkin: NEGATIVE 0.3 xDef
(in general the advanced stats say nico and mercer are better with a combined xWAR of 3.7 compared to 2.5 for Raymond and Larkin)

So you were wrong on all 3 points. Congrats


You’re looking at 1 year, where Detroit lost 2 of their top 6 forwards for most of the season.
NJ has a better team right now. But is that team good enough to win a cup? If the answer is no, then who cares if you’re better. NJ is out of their rebuild and not a cup contender. With the upcoming Timo deal, NJ will be basically locked into their roster with limited flexibility. Detroit has the pieces in place to be a cup contender in a couple of years with plenty of options.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:19 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
The dudes been drinking too much.

Larkin > Hischier Raymond = Mercer.


Larkin over Hischier lol. Only area where Larkin is better is the power play (tbf that's also the only area where Raymond is better than mercer)
Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:19 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Took a step back meaning his advanced metrics were much worse than last year.


Scott Stevens’ advance metrics were **** but was he a great Dman?
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:23 p.m.
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Quoting: JhonnyCanuck5
You’re looking at 1 year, where Detroit lost 2 of their top 6 forwards for most of the season.
NJ has a better team right now. But is that team good enough to win a cup? If the answer is no, then who cares if you’re better. NJ is out of their rebuild and not a cup contender. With the upcoming Timo deal, NJ will be basically locked into their roster with limited flexibility. Detroit has the pieces in place to be a cup contender in a couple of years with plenty of options.


The devils are absolutely good enough to win a cup.

If the current devils roster "isn't good enough to win a cup", then in what universe is the Detroit roster project to that:
Worse defensive core (IF your lower tier prospects hit turn into legit top 4 guys you might be equal)
2 stars and a superstar short in the top 6 as well as being worse other than that (I'll be generous and give you kaspar over holtz, even tho they are ranked similarly in most prospect rankings, so Kaspar-Larkin-Raymond=Hischier-Mercer-Holtz)
And depending on a goalie prospect hitting (never a guarantee).

You're at MINIMUM an entire ELITE top line short of matching the devils
 
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