SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Reshaping The Defence

Created by: KingExLeafs
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 31, 2023
Published: Jun. 1, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,400,000
2$925,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,400,000
3$3,000,000
2$2,000,000
2$1,000,000
4$4,000,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (COL)
ANA
  1. Brodie, TJ
Additional Details:
Any team with cap space for a draft pick.
2.
MIN
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. McMann, Bobby
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
  4. 2025 5th round pick (TOR)
3.
ARI
  1. Robertson, Nicholas
  2. Timmins, Conor
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
  4. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  5. 2025 3rd round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
Logo of the COL
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
2024
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the OTT
2025
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the TOR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$81,496,450$0$0$2,003,550
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$4,300,000$4,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$2,450,000$2,450,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$886,667$886,667
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 7
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2

Embed Code

  • To display this team on another website or blog, add this iFrame to the appropriate page
  • Customize the height attribute in the iFrame code below to fit your website appropriately. Minimum recommended: 400px.

Text-Embed

Click to Highlight
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:11 a.m.
#1
Birddog
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 1,161
Likes: 241
Too much for Crouse and Moser is not anything special.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:14 a.m.
#2
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2021
Posts: 3,922
Likes: 587
Quoting: Newtown
Too much for Crouse and Moser is not anything special.


Young, cheap, on good deals, cost controlled. Both have size. That's gonna cost quite a bit.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:18 a.m.
#3
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 8,566
Likes: 3,319
Quoting: Newtown
Too much for Crouse and Moser is not anything special.


Moser is the next Chychrun but instead of being injured and over-rated, he'll be healthy and underrated from the looks of things.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:20 a.m.
#4
LosPatos
Avatar of the user
Joined: Dec. 2019
Posts: 3,315
Likes: 1,823
Can’t imagine anyone is paying a 2nd for an expiring defenseman coming off an injury.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:23 a.m.
#5
Chicago
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2015
Posts: 6,991
Likes: 2,842
This D core isn't any better and their problem was scoring goals in the postseason. 2 goals in each game against FLA isn't going to cut it.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:23 a.m.
#6
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2021
Posts: 3,922
Likes: 587
Quoting: LosPatos
Can’t imagine anyone is paying a 2nd for an expiring defenseman coming off an injury.


Brodie will be fine to start the season. As for the price, a 2nd or 3rd is good value, especially for teams looking for a veteran defenceman to help make the playoffs. That's probably not Anaheim.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:24 a.m.
#7
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2021
Posts: 3,922
Likes: 587
Quoting: NickC1988
This D core isn't any better and their problem was scoring goals in the postseason. 2 goals in each game against FLA isn't going to cut it.


Crouse and Hartman are playoff type players. They can score greasy goals.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:29 a.m.
#8
Birddog
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 1,161
Likes: 241
Quoting: GMBL
Moser is the next Chychrun but instead of being injured and over-rated, he'll be healthy and underrated from the looks of things.


Chyckrun is bigger, more physical and a better shot.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:54 a.m.
#9
Future Ducks legend
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2022
Posts: 9,270
Likes: 6,036
If you are moving out Brodie to improve your D core, that tells me Brodie is not a 5 million defenseman.

If Brodie's contract is under water, he's worth a late round pick tops.

His 7.5 million real salary also is a downer that needs to be paid for.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:56 a.m.
#10
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 8,566
Likes: 3,319
Quoting: Newtown
Chyckrun is bigger, more physical and a better shot.


Not every Dman lays the body a ton, that being said Moser is only 22 and just played 125 games in the NHL, there's going to be a lot of room for development.

You say Chychrun has a better shot but Moser still scored the same amount of goals (yes, he played more games) but compare him with Chychrun in his first two seasons.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 1:00 a.m.
#11
Thread Starter
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jul. 2021
Posts: 3,922
Likes: 587
Quoting: GiggywithGibby
If you are moving out Brodie to improve your D core, that tells me Brodie is not a 5 million defenseman.

If Brodie's contract is under water, he's worth a late round pick tops.

His 7.5 million real salary also is a downer that needs to be paid for.


Brodie is still a good top 4 defenceman, but Treliving likes bigger bodies who can throw hits. There must be some team out there that has a need for a Brodie in their top 4.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 1:06 a.m.
#12
Future Ducks legend
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2022
Posts: 9,270
Likes: 6,036
Quoting: KingExLeafs
Brodie is still a good top 4 defenceman, but Treliving likes bigger bodies who can throw hits. There must be some team out there that has a need for a Brodie in their top 4.


I'm sure there is, but I think you'll have a hard time getting market rate. It's entirely possible some team looks at Brodie and starts singing "You're the one"
Jun. 1, 2023 at 1:15 a.m.
#13
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 8,566
Likes: 3,319
Quoting: NickC1988
This D core isn't any better and their problem was scoring goals in the postseason. 2 goals in each game against FLA isn't going to cut it.


You're right about the D core not being any better, but there is merit to improving the dcore. Sometimes you need to win a tight series, which means reducing goals. In the end, the difference was 4 goals, which means a goal per loss.

Interestingly enough, though In the East, it seems to really come down to who has the hottest goalie, defense definitely helps, but having the best goalie or hottest glove seems to be the way to get far. Leafs have a good defense but that's where they should look to make another significant addition if possible, probably bringing in a Brodie replacement (without dealing him) is the move. They also need to find a way to get more out of Liljegren.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 1:19 a.m.
#14
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 8,566
Likes: 3,319
Quoting: LosPatos
Can’t imagine anyone is paying a 2nd for an expiring defenseman coming off an injury.


Well if we look at how much rental top 4 D men have cost in the past couple of years, it's safe to say that a 2nd would be a heavily discounted price. So, it's a low risk move all things considered.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 2:01 a.m.
#15
Avatar of the user
Joined: Oct. 2020
Posts: 3,610
Likes: 1,318
The Minnesota trade isn't even in the ballpark. Hartman on his current contract is a very high value asset especially for a team that lacks C and lacks capspace.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 8:54 a.m.
#16
Banned
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2023
Posts: 745
Likes: 136
Another crappy proposal by leafs fan for Minnesota wild players. Their 1c and top 4d , cheap ones for troll nothing return. Right? @KingEXLeafs. ??
Jun. 2, 2023 at 12:45 a.m.
#17
Chicago
Avatar of the user
Joined: Jun. 2015
Posts: 6,991
Likes: 2,842
Quoting: GMBL
You're right about the D core not being any better, but there is merit to improving the dcore. Sometimes you need to win a tight series, which means reducing goals. In the end, the difference was 4 goals, which means a goal per loss.

Interestingly enough, though In the East, it seems to really come down to who has the hottest goalie, defense definitely helps, but having the best goalie or hottest glove seems to be the way to get far. Leafs have a good defense but that's where they should look to make another significant addition if possible, probably bringing in a Brodie replacement (without dealing him) is the move. They also need to find a way to get more out of Liljegren.


Considering how bad Brodie was and how much older he is, they really need Liljegren to step up. Sandin trade will come back to haunt them IMO, but we'll see where they go this offseason. If they can get someone to have a Knies-like impact on the backend, they should be okay. I'm chalking this year up to anomaly as neither of the teams in the finals are powerhouses by any means.
Jun. 2, 2023 at 1:22 a.m.
#18
Avatar of the user
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 8,566
Likes: 3,319
Quoting: NickC1988
Considering how bad Brodie was and how much older he is, they really need Liljegren to step up. Sandin trade will come back to haunt them IMO, but we'll see where they go this offseason. If they can get someone to have a Knies-like impact on the backend, they should be okay. I'm chalking this year up to anomaly as neither of the teams in the finals are powerhouses by any means.


Sandin was really blocked by Rielly, so I think that's a loss that they kind of had to take but I do think they will regret it if that pick isn't turned into something good, although Dubas won't be the one to be regretting it haha.

I would have to disagree with this year's final not having any powerhouse. Vegas is a powerhouse in the West, it's really like the Wild West out there, not very predictable but since their expansion team went to the Finals, they have always been considered a favorite since they've only added more star power throughout the years. As for FLR, I wouldn't say they are a powerhouse (although they should be) even with the season they had last year, but they certainly aren't the kitten that people are making them out to be. It's really a bunch of guys living up to their expectations with a few guys going beyond.

Bobrovsky is a 10.5M who was paid for being a Vezina Calibre goalie. He never lived up to that contract at all in FLR but now he's playing his best hockey ever imo
Tkachuk is the 6th OV pick from 2016 who became a superstar last year and while he improved in the playoffs over previous years, his efforts weren't enough. He proved that last year wasn't a fluke and is having a post-season that matches his regular season.
Ekblad is the 1st OV pick from 2014 whose been a top pairing Dman for years. Nothing new with him.
Reinhart is the 2nd OV pick from 2014 - he's been a top 6 forward for a while even though he's still not really living up to that 2nd OV selection.
Bennett is the 4th OV pick from 2014 - this guy struggled a ton in CGY, wasn't really ever a top 6 player but ever since coming to FLR he's improved a lot, and like Reinhart, he hasn't met expectations of where he was taken but he's still a solid player.
Barkov is the 2nd OV pick from 2013 whose been considered a top-10 C/player for a few years now. Nothing new with him.

They also have Verhaeghe who has gone gotten better and better over last season and this one, in both the regular season and the playoffs. Similar to him is Brandon Montour who is finally becoming what was expected of him and more.
 
Reply
To create a post please Login or Register
Question:
Options:
Add Option
Submit Poll