Brodoe isnt worth a 1st round pick

He easily is

Lol no he isnt

33 years old.

Owed 7.5 million this year as a pending ufa

Negative relative metrics over the last 3 years

Doesnt bring a physical element

Doesnt produce points.


He doesnt do anything to justify a 1st round pick. With the salary owing especially they will be lucky to get a 5th

He's going into his age 33 season and missed 30 games with injury last year, and even if he was fully healthy still wouldn't be worth a 1st.

no he didnt and ben chiarot got more than a first, tj brodie is worth a first

Funny how Leafs want to improve the Dmen, LIljgren/Brodie/Timmins are the only RHD the Leafs have this season. I like. Brodie and I just don't see how the Leafs would be better without him. If the logic is sign Schenn to a 2m deal, then wouldn't Schenn, the Isles be much better off if the Isles signed Schenn at 4m, and the Isles keep their pic?.

Apparently Kadri nixed the Calgary trade due to his N MTC. But again no logic in saying "Trevling let Brodie into free agency" What don't folks understand, players have the choice on where they want to play UFA....and players leave because they "can", not that their current team "let" them.

I'm talking about the idea that he attempted to let Brodie go twice where one was successful and the other was no. Brodie would have been a Leaf if Kadri didn't nix the deal

OK, he attempted to trade Brodie for another asset....that's one scenario. Then the other when Brodie was UFA, "let" him go well that's kinda silly talk. Maybe the Flames offered him the same 5m the Leafs did, and Brodie said no, I want to play elsewhere....and he did.

It's like in the summer of 2024, if the Leafs haven't traded Matthews and Nylander, and the two players sign elsewhere as UFAs, despite good offers from the Leafs. It isn't that the Leafs "let" them go. it would be the players decided to leave because they "can"

My thinking too. I think he needs to be moved for a draft pick or a useful low cost 4th line player.

He only played 58 games. And also, he's not good.

24 is the new 30 I guess, you dont watch and thats ok, if ben freaking chiarot got a first, you can be sure tj brodie would also get one

This is more or less in line with my own thinking- move Brodie, clear Murray, add a bit of muscle on forward and D.
I think that perhaps Orlov will go for more than 4.5 m- might want to adjust that up. Schenn will go for about 500k more I think too. And relying on Giordano as a full time pairing is a bad idea, need to add a useful depth D.
But generally speaking, I like the concept you present even if the names and price tags are not exactly right.

Brodie is a fine top 4 D. He has more value to TOR than any team trading for him.
Supporting cast needs improvement. Leafs have 5 D that are 4-7 guys. Need to bring someone in that pushes guys down/out of the lineup.
Liljegren needs to take another big jump this season.
I've loved Gio but he needs upgraded at this stage in his career.
Enjoyed Schenn in the playoffs, but he can't be top 4 for a full season.

Several things.

Chiarot was coming off a trip to the cup finals as the number 1 dman on the team.

He had a sub 2 million cap hit vs 5.

He is 6'3 230 lbs and uses it something brodie doesnt do.

Brodie does not remotely fit the bill of dmen teams tend to overpay for. Dude hasnt been in a fight since junior hes veiwed as a soft player by GMs

Brodie is not a RHD

Just need to trade for Kuz who is available and Samsonov has 2/5ths of Ovi's old Russian Crew back together.



But he is a RD.

brodie is waaaaay better than chiarot, on glue if you think otherwise, david savard also got a first, brodie is fetching a first if those guys did.

"Brodie does not remotely fit the bill of dmen teams tend to overpay for. Dude hasnt been in a fight since junior hes veiwed as a soft player by GMs"

He certainly can be

I could be wrong but didn't they let go of Brodie so they could sign Tanev?

Brodie has played the right side almost his entire career. 65% of players shoot left. Odds are a team is going to have one left handed shot Dman playing the right side.

Quoted the wrong guy, haha.

My opinion is that Brodie shouldn't get a 1st but there are some things here that are wrong:

Chiarot was (at best) the number 3 defensemen on that team

Chiraot was also making 3.5 mill, not under 2 mill

Chiarot was easy to play against in playoffs, it's partly why Florida got knocked out in R2. Chiarot is soft. Deal with it

Brodie also plays RHD which is attractive towards GMs

God forbid someone round off.