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Created by: sk540
Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 1, 2023
Published: Jun. 1, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
2$1,150,000
4$2,750,000
2$2,000,000
2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
2$3,500,000
2$1,650,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. Vrána, Jakub
  3. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
STL
  1. Provorov, Ivan ($1,750,000 retained)
2.
PHI
  1. Olausson, Oskar
  2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Hayes, Kevin ($3,571,428 retained)
3.
PHI
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (VAN)
4.
PHI
  1. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
5.
PHI
  1. 2023 4th round pick (BOS)
6.
PHI
  1. 2023 5th round pick (MIN)
7.
PHI
  1. Buchelnikov, Dmitri [Reserve List]
  2. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
DET
  1. Konecny, Travis ($750,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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Logo of the TOR
Logo of the COL
Logo of the NYI
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the NYR
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the BOS
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the MIN
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the PHI
2024
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the TOR
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
2025
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$75,292,928$1,187,500$0$8,207,072
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$2,625,000$2,625,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$1,650,000$1,650,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,150,000$1,150,000
LW, RW
UFA
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,100,000$5,100,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,979,000$3,979,000
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,675,000$1,675,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$775,000$775,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$3,275,000$3,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$900,000$900,000
RD
RFA - 2

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Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:35 a.m.
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Not enough for TK, too much retention on Hayes and not sure STL wants to get rid of Vrana, who was good for them, and a 1st when they are retooling.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:36 a.m.
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Canucks pass.IMHO.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:39 a.m.
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you aren't getting 2 first round picks (Olausson was 2021) for Hayes, even with retention.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.
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Leafs decline
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.
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Avs decline.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:07 a.m.
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Not enough for TK, too much retention on Hayes and not sure STL wants to get rid of Vrana, who was good for them, and a 1st when they are retooling.


You kind of have to think though that in this day and age, you may not ever really get back the value of either what you think you should get or what the production is. i would take a 2023 first and that prospect, maybe another prospect, or maybe more picks in later drafts. I would just love to come away with as many 1st's in 2023 as possible.

The Hayes retention shouldn't matter at all since we probably aren't even contending by the time his contract is up, especially if we're getting their '23 first and a top 10 prospect in their pool.

I know St Louis may not want to get rid of him, but his contract is up next year and they have so many wings, may be nice to maximize his value and potentially not lose him for nothing. I also get the feeling Armstrong is not going to just accept a down year, they have several pieces to win now, they got some draft capital this year, but they certainly have a roster, especially on the back end, that can get back into the playoffs now.

Just my opinions though.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:08 a.m.
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Canucks pass.IMHO.


Why? Is it the draft pick? If you guys want a chance to contend and basically get rid of all of his salary. while being able to put Ellis on LTIR, only for a 3rd, why wouldn't you do that?
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.
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you aren't getting 2 first round picks (Olausson was 2021) for Hayes, even with retention.


How about Sampo then? I'd take that chance.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.
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Leafs decline


Nah
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.
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I am going to save this response so I can cut and paste it in. Avs have been very good at asset & cap management, and the contract/player are a bad fit. The contract request was a bad one from day one, and that is a driver on why the Avalanche ended their pursuit of him the first time. Unless the Flyers do full retention and find a 3rd team to take the other 25%, there is absolutely no way the Avalanche trade for Kevin Hayes (and even then...). He is too slow, too expensive and signed for too long.

Anyone the Avs get for a 2C is likely going to be in between Lekhonen and Nichushkin, both of whom skate and attack the puck. The Avs had Compher at 2C last year, his stats are comparable to Hayes, and he just could not keep up and contribute as they needed. They will find a 2C solution, but Hayes aint it.
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Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.
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How about Sampo then? I'd take that chance.


yeah, something like that would work.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:12 a.m.
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You kind of have to think though that in this day and age, you may not ever really get back the value of either what you think you should get or what the production is. i would take a 2023 first and that prospect, maybe another prospect, or maybe more picks in later drafts. I would just love to come away with as many 1st's in 2023 as possible.

The Hayes retention shouldn't matter at all since we probably aren't even contending by the time his contract is up, especially if we're getting their '23 first and a top 10 prospect in their pool.

I know St Louis may not want to get rid of him, but his contract is up next year and they have so many wings, may be nice to maximize his value and potentially not lose him for nothing. I also get the feeling Armstrong is not going to just accept a down year, they have several pieces to win now, they got some draft capital this year, but they certainly have a roster, especially on the back end, that can get back into the playoffs now.

Just my opinions though.


Regarding the blues part I don't think they will trade Vrana right now because he was good for us and fills a need on the top 6 right now. The only wingers I think that are outright better are Saad, Buch, and Kyrou. Most likely we will trade him for picks at the deadline. Also we already have Scandella, Krug, Leddy making a lot of money on the left side so we would have to get rid of them first in order to fit Provorov. Our GM said he didn't want to do a sabres/devils type of rebuild but he specifically mentioned the Kings as model he would like to follow. The Kings finished in the bottom 10 from 2019-2021 while also adding pieces like Danult, Arvidsson, Fiala, etc....
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:23 a.m.
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Why? Is it the draft pick? If you guys want a chance to contend and basically get rid of all of his salary. while being able to put Ellis on LTIR, only for a 3rd, why wouldn't you do that?


We already have pearson and poolman possibley on Ltir.Myers can be traded for a late pick after his bonus is paid.Not sure why we would trade for a player thats not under 26 that cant help us now.IMHO.
Jun. 1, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
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Boston accepts
Jun. 1, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.
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The more I see the Hayes trades to the Avs, the less I like it and think it's a terrible idea. He just doesn't play the style the Avs need him to so it's a bad fit. If they're trading good assets for a 2C, they absolutely have to hit a home run; Hayes is, at best, a double.
Jun. 2, 2023 at 8:47 a.m.
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Depending on what Boston does with their current dmen, I could see them accepting this. Well done.
 
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