Habs offseason now Caufield is extended 8 years

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Created by: JeffGorton

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 5, 2023

Published: Jun. 5, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Now we know Caufield is staying for 8 seasons. That gives the Habs the ability to take their time. First move would be to draft Michkov at 5. The Habs will have until he comes to NA to build the rest of the core. All that would be missing is an Elite RHD, Starting goalie if Monty isnt it and an Upgrade on C so the Habs can move Suzuki to the wing. (Where is playstyle would be best. Kinda like a poor mans Marner but with playoff pedigree)

So the next 3 years should be focused on acquiring as many top 60 picks as possible. By either trading players on the team who arent apart of the window or taking bad contracts

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël		2	$1,500,000

Trades

MTL

Murray, Matt
Villeneuve, William
2023 1st round pick (BOS)

Additional Details:

Leafs get the Grit and playoff performer while getting rid of an awful contract. They need to go all out this season and with the cap only going up by 1m, moving bad cap will be expensive

And for those who say Anderson is a cap dump. Find me a 20+ goal scoring winger with his size and speed for under 5.5 million. All the FA options are either not as good or will cost more and for longer term.

TOR

Anderson, Josh

Additional Details:

Habs buyout Murray immediately after trade

MTL

Beauvillier, Anthony

VAN

Dvorak, Christian
2023 5th round pick (CGY)

Additional Details:

Ive seen this trade a few times and I like it. Beau can be traded 50% retained at the deadline if he performs and could fetch a 2nd rounder at least

MTL

Faksa, Radek

DAL

Armia, Joel
2024 7th round pick (EDM)

Additional Details:

200k difference with same term, both need a new team to hopefully stay in the NHL after their contracts expire

Adding a 7th for the 200k difference and Center for RW

MTL

2024 4th round pick (COL)
2025 6th round pick (COL)

COL

Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Cup winning bottom pair LHD for $1,750,000 is decent. They made it work with Jack Johnson and Eddy is better than him in every facet. Also team gets a new locker room DJ

MTL

Granlund, Mikael
2023 1st round pick (PIT)

PIT

Kovacevic, Johnathan
2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2023 4th round pick (PIT)
2023 4th round pick (VGK)

Additional Details:

Habs give the 32nd pick and a very solid bottom pair D on his ELC to move up to 14th and eat Granlunds deal for 2 years. Added 2 4th rounder to sweeten the deal since the Pens need all the picks.

MTL

Mantha, Anthony
2023 1st round pick (WSH)

WSH

Kostenko, Dmitri [Reserve List]
Pitlick, Rem
Ylönen, Jesse [RFA Rights]
2023 1st round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

2 very cheap bottom 6 pieces and 14th overall to up to 8th overall while eating Mantha's deal

Added a C rated D prospect to sweeten the deal

MTL

ARI

2023 1st round pick (MTL)
2023 1st round pick (BOS)
2023 1st round pick (WSH)

Additional Details:

Habs draft Michkov at 5, Benson or Leonard at 8, Perron at 28 and Hrabal at 37

If both Benson are taken at 8, move down a few spots if you can and take Perreault

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333
Matt Murray: $687,500

Retained Salary Transactions

Joel Edmundson: $1,750,000 (200%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$70,819,999	$1,170,000	$4,195,000	$12,680,001

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Caufield, Cole $7,850,000$7,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 8	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 3	Beauvillier, Anthony $4,150,000$4,150,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 2	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 7	Mantha, Anthony $2,850,000$2,850,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 1	Granlund, Mikael $5,000,000$5,000,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Faksa, Radek $3,250,000$3,250,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake $1,925,000$1,925,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 2	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($275,000$275K) RD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 2		Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:39 a.m.

Herb_Brooks

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murray for anderson 1 for 1 is fair, 1 bad year of murray contract for 4 bad years of anderson contract, laughable trade as it is now

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Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:42 a.m.

swinny

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Quoting: Herb_Brooks

murray for anderson 1 for 1 is fair, 1 bad year of murray contract for 4 bad years of anderson contract, laughable trade as it is now

I was gonna say.....

Would sooner spend an additional $500K or so on Bertuzzi,whi is a year younger to boot.

All.for dumping Murray, but better ways to do it than 4 years of Anderson making about $1.5 million more than he should.

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Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:43 a.m.

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That DAL and VAN trades are pretty diabolical.

Armia and dvorakwill cost more than that, both have kind of tanked, and you're getting the better/younger/cheaper (take your pick) player back.

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Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:47 a.m.

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Leafs decline

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Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.

Herb_Brooks

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Quoting: swinny

the way habs fans value anderson is truly sickening

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Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.

Subbanator7667

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Leafs would still have to add to that trade

Don't think Pit or Washington make those moves

Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.

MeetYourMakar

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I would rather JJ on the 3rd pair for 950k than J.E

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Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:49 a.m.

Will27

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Avs decline, can get a better player in FA and not have to pay assets.

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Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:49 a.m.

JeffGorton

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Quoting: swinny

Bertuzzi scored 8 goals in 50 games last year. Not even close to the same player. And dumping Murray is gonna cost like an early 2nd rounder to dump for FC.

Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:51 a.m.

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Quoting: JeffGorton

Bertuzzi scored 8 goals in 50 games last year. Not even close to the same player. And dumping Murray is gonna cost like an early 2nd rounder to dump for FC.

And he was a PPG player the year before that. Anderson can never even hit half that

Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:52 a.m.

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

Leafs would still have to add to that trade

Don't think Pit or Washington make those moves

ahahahahah no chance they would, murray for anderson cap dump for cap dump

Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:53 a.m.

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Quoting: JeffGorton

Bertuzzi scored 8 goals in 50 games last year. Not even close to the same player. And dumping Murray is gonna cost like an early 2nd rounder to dump for FC.

bertuzzi>anderson

Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:56 a.m.

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Quoting: Herb_Brooks

ahahahahah no chance they would, murray for anderson cap dump for cap dump

Except Anderson isn't a cap dump in NHL GMs minds. To them he is a big winger who skates fast and plays physical. Which to the old boys club that runs the NHL is valuable.

Like it or not but just about every insider has at one point reported on teams offering a 1st for him and the Habs telling them they'd need to add. So not a cap dump and is apparently valued at more then just a late 1st

Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:58 a.m.

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

the only person that has said hes been offered a first is kent hughes, hes driving up the cost of his player, hes smart, any insider got that info from hughes any gm that offered that should never work in the nhl again, hes a cap dump whether your bias habs glasses will let you see that or not, 5.5 m for a 3rd liner who cant crack 40 points, this trades a joke

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Jun. 5, 2023 at 12:09 p.m.

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Every team declines.

Thinking that Pittsburgh would move back from #14 to #31 to acquire waivers claim Kovacevic and dump Granlund when he could be bought out for $833,333 this summer is particularly egregious.

Quoting: Herb_Brooks

the way habs fans value anderson is truly sickening

But he's Mark Stone without the "C"!

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Jun. 5, 2023 at 12:17 p.m.

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Or, TOR could just buyout Murray and keep their 1st round pick and their prospect?

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Jun. 5, 2023 at 12:17 p.m.

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Quoting: Herb_Brooks

So just to get this straight, it wasn't only Hughes. Friedman, Frank Serivalle, Sam Constantine, Darren Dreger, Bob McKenzie all confirmed the same report.

And I'm sorry that facts hurt your feelings but I'm sure your coloured glasses will help you not be soft next time

Jun. 5, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.

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Herb_Brooks

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

6 more points in 27 less games while being way better defensively and a bad back

Jun. 5, 2023 at 12:20 p.m.

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Herb_Brooks

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

hughes reported to them, IF Hughes did decline a first for anderson, then he should be fired. habs fans are the only fan base in the NHL that doesnt think anderson is a cap dump, yeah thats not biased. the fact the you said toronto needs to add to an already bad trade? yeah for sure not biased. absolutely delusional.

Jun. 5, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

They confirmed the report that Kent Hughes claimed he was offered a 1st yes

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Jun. 5, 2023 at 12:43 p.m.

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Quoting: dgibb10

They confirmed the report that Kent Hughes claimed he was offered a 1st yes

They confirmed with multiple sources, thanks though

Jun. 5, 2023 at 12:46 p.m.

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Quoting: Herb_Brooks

It's actually just basic logic, if the Habs wouldn't accept a 1st round for Anderson why would they accept it for him in a deal that includes another player worth his contract.

Also find it funny people think Anderson isn't worth a 1st when we have literally seen so many examples of big useless players going for 1st round picks. Size is always a desirable asset in the NHL and it's Anderson's main positive

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Quoting: Subbanator7667

They confirmed with multiple sources, thanks though

Sources from outside of montreal? Any sources on who the team was who offered it?

Jun. 5, 2023 at 1:17 p.m.

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Quoting: Herb_Brooks

the way habs fans value anderson is truly sickening

An attempt to justify that contract. It's bad. Let's admit it and move on.

Jun. 5, 2023 at 1:22 p.m.

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swinny

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Quoting: JeffGorton

Bertuzzi scored 8 goals in 50 games last year. Not even close to the same player. And dumping Murray is gonna cost like an early 2nd rounder to dump for FC.

You're right. Bertuzzi is better.

Anderson is a career 35 point guy. You cannot justify $5.5 million for 3rd line numbers. No way, no how, no doing.

Bertuzzi conversely, runs 45-50 points, making him much more a 2nd liner than Anderson ever will be. I can also point out his 30 goal season, or his near PPG pace with a much better Bruins club than Detroit was during his tenure.

I love Anderson's game. But there is absolutely no way you are going to convince me he is or ever was worth $5.5 million. One of thr worst contracts in the NHL.

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