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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 5, 2023
Published: Jun. 5, 2023
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How much for these players
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Cates, Noah [RFA Rights]
PHI
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    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    2024
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    2025
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    16$83,500,000$71,731,450$0$0$11,768,550
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $2,100,000$2,100,000
    RW, C, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $11,640,250$11,640,250
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
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    $10,903,000$10,903,000
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
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    $925,000$925,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
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    $11,000,000$11,000,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 2
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    $6,962,366$6,962,366
    RW
    NMC
    UFA - 1
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 3
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    $1,150,000$1,150,000
    RW, C, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $7,500,000$7,500,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    $5,000,000$5,000,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    $4,687,500$4,687,500
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $766,667$766,667
    G
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $800,000$800,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    RD
    RFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $796,667$796,667
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
    $5,625,000$5,625,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1

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    Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:57 a.m.
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    No way they deal Cates. Doubt he’d realistically fetch the value that would making trading him worth it. Laughton probably costs a late 1st or 2nd+ a bit.
    Jun. 5, 2023 at 11:58 a.m.
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    Laughton is probably a 1st and a bit more (a 4th? both your 1sts are likely late in the round), cates is probably one of those 1sts and a good/very good prospect (Hirvonen? Niemala?)

    But both will cost more than TOR wants to give up, because if PHI moves them, they both have good value. And it would have to be what they want, not what you want to be rid of.
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    Jun. 5, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.
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    A late first for laughts. Possible other equivalents like 2nd + solid prospect would work. I know TML scoff at this, but he makes 3m and wears a letter. Given how young our group is going to be, he’d be a no brained to keep around unless the return is solid.

    Cates is weird. I just don’t think the flyers have any desire to trade him. Another guy that costs 0, is extremely coachable, fits the timeline and is an actual stud defensively. I know it’s crazy, but I wouldn’t want anything less than 15OA for a player like that.
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    Jun. 5, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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    The Flyers waited years for Cates and he was one of the best defensive players in the league last year. He will not be available.
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    Jun. 5, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
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    I feel like Cates is pretty much untouchable unless a huge overpayment is involved.

    Laughts will probably cost a 1st, most likely a late 1st.
    Also a 2nd + a B or so prospect would probably suffice.
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    Jun. 5, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.
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    Agreed with what everyone else said. Nobody will want to pay the return on Cates that would make the Flyers happy to move him so he’s probably untouchable. For Laughton I want a late 1st because that’s what he would fetch at a deadline when someone gets desperate because of injury or depth issues and he’s a massive leader in a locker room
    Jun. 5, 2023 at 3:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: radtad
    A late first for laughts. Possible other equivalents like 2nd + solid prospect would work. I know TML scoff at this, but he makes 3m and wears a letter. Given how young our group is going to be, he’d be a no brained to keep around unless the return is solid.

    Cates is weird. I just don’t think the flyers have any desire to trade him. Another guy that costs 0, is extremely coachable, fits the timeline and is an actual stud defensively. I know it’s crazy, but I wouldn’t want anything less than 15OA for a player like that.


    Quoting: DirtyDangles
    The Flyers waited years for Cates and he was one of the best defensive players in the league last year. He will not be available.


    Honestly I could see Cates as a captain candidate one day.
     
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