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Sens 2023 summer moves

Created by: Jimmy_Stu
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 5, 2023
Published: Jun. 5, 2023
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Rate the moves! Write what you would change if you disagree, don't just say those moves are ridiculous, I think they are close enough to be fair for both sides.

Also... the 2023 Stanley Cup final sucks!
GOSENSGO
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,250,000
5$4,500,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Lafrenière, Alexis$4,250,000
2024 2nd round pick
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Swayman, Jeremy [RFA Rights]
BOS
  1. Pinto, Shane [RFA Rights]
2.
NYR
  1. Brännström, Erik [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Either do this trade or offer sheet Lafrenière.

For ppl who think Brannstrom is an under pay for Kakko, you guys just havent seen him play, he's way more impressive than Chabot
3.
OTT
  1. 2023 1st round pick (DET)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (DET)
DET
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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Logo of the OTT
Logo of the NSH
Logo of the NYR
2024
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the TBL
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
2025
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the OTT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$83,054,047$0$1,850,000$445,953
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
$4,250,000$4,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the New York Rangers
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$916,667$916,667
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
RFA - 2

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Jun. 5, 2023 at 1:45 p.m.
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Detroit declines
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Jun. 5, 2023 at 1:46 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Detroit declines


Yea it would be a better trade for a team that needs a top scoring winger like calgary
Jun. 5, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.
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Yea it would be a better trade for a team that needs a top scoring winger like calgary


Wings need it, but they aren't paying more than what Ottawa did for him.
Jun. 5, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.
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Yea it would be a better trade for a team that needs a top scoring winger like calgary


he wont sign in Calgary. Best teams to trade him to are Washington, Pitt or Carolina. Isles could be in the mix but they dont have much to offer. Rangers would also if they had a cap space. Hes gonna end up in the metro
Jun. 5, 2023 at 1:49 p.m.
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Good luck with the Laf offersheet cause this isn’t interesting for Kakko at all. Plus our defense is set for the top 5 spots already. Not giving up Kakko for an upgrade at # 6.
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Jun. 5, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.
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These are all awful. Brannstrom isn't worth kakko and is another ofd the ranger don't need. I doubt Detroit trade the 9th pick for Debrincat. And no chance Boston takes pinto for swayman.
Jun. 5, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.
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You would have to give up a first and a third for laffy. Since he has not broken out yet I don't think that's worth it.
Jun. 5, 2023 at 1:58 p.m.
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These are all awful. Brannstrom isn't worth kakko and is another ofd the ranger don't need. I doubt Detroit trade the 9th pick for Debrincat. And no chance Boston takes pinto for swayman.


you mean no chance the Sens give up Pinto for Swayman*
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Jun. 5, 2023 at 1:59 p.m.
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You should probably know the needs of the team you're trading with before you try trading with them. The Rangers don't need another smallish LD and their biggest need is at RW in the top 6, since Kakko is all they have at the moment. So trading him for LD make ZERO sense for the Rangers. Also, Kakko is worth way more than that anyway.

Also, good luck with the Laffy offersheet, its pure fantasy and nonsense.
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Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
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Wings pass
Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:03 p.m.
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you mean no chance the Sens give up Pinto for Swayman*


Tomato tomato
Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.
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If the Sens offer this I'd assume the bruins would jump at it given that we already have Ullmark and an obvious need for young centers.
Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:17 p.m.
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Funny how every other team’s fan base wants the rangers “bust” players
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Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: NYRxLundqvist
These are all awful. Brannstrom isn't worth kakko and is another ofd the ranger don't need. I doubt Detroit trade the 9th pick for Debrincat. And no chance Boston takes pinto for swayman.


I think it's the other way round tbh, bruins would probably jump at the chance at adding a promising young center while only sacrificing Swayman.
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Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Detroit declines


What would you do? Detroit needs more scoring guys...?
Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:23 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Wings need it, but they aren't paying more than what Ottawa did for him.


THAT IS LESS THAN WHAT THEY PAID
Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
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What would you do? Detroit needs more scoring guys...?


17+43+3rd.
We need more scoring guys, but i don't think we should to overpay to get them.
Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
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I think it's the other way round tbh, bruins would probably jump at the chance at adding a promising young center while only sacrificing Swayman.


Not really, Swayman has starter potential so they wouldn't (or shouldn't) "jump" at the chance. It's something to think about but this isn't a one-sided deal. Sure, you're adding a young center... at the expense of a potential starting G.
Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:25 p.m.
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THAT IS LESS THAN WHAT THEY PAID


In a vacuum yeah lol.
If you think 7OA in '22 and 9OA in '23 have similar-valued prospects you'd be dead wrong.
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Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.
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In a vacuum maybe lol.
If you think 7OA in '22 and 9OA in '23 have similar-valued prospects you'd be dead wrong.


Korchinski and Dragicevic have a very similar D0 draft year.
Korchinski went 7OA and is a LHD.
Dragicevic, whose also a RHD, isn't projected to go until the late 1st. Granted, Dragicevic' defensive game is worse, but not to the extent that if he was equal to Korchinski he maybe goes mid-late teens.
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Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Onlyfairtrades1
You should probably know the needs of the team you're trading with before you try trading with them. The Rangers don't need another smallish LD and their biggest need is at RW in the top 6, since Kakko is all they have at the moment. So trading him for LD make ZERO sense for the Rangers. Also, Kakko is worth way more than that anyway.

Also, good luck with the Laffy offersheet, its pure fantasy and nonsense.


Well I can only think teams are gonna get interested in Laff, cz NYR cant really pay Laff and Miller without making a sacrifice, which is the entire bottom 6
Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.
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Wings aren't moving 9OA for DeBrincat
Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
17+43+3rd.
We need more scoring guys, but i don't think we should to overpay to get them.


17th pick, plus the 43rd, plus a 3rd? That is very less than what OTT paid to get him (7th, 39th, and a 3rd)
I put the 9th and 41st pick, no 3rd, I think that pretty fair.
I've seen a lot of your comments and you don't seem to get the term "fair"
Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:35 p.m.
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Not really, Swayman has starter potential so they wouldn't (or shouldn't) "jump" at the chance. It's something to think about but this isn't a one-sided deal. Sure, you're adding a young center... at the expense of a potential starting G.


Pinto is a future 2nd center, I actually think he's gonna be there in a year or 2
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Jun. 5, 2023 at 2:40 p.m.
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17th pick, plus the 43rd, plus a 3rd? That is very less than what OTT paid to get him (7th, 39th, and a 3rd)
I put the 9th and 41st pick, no 3rd, I think that pretty fair.
I've seen a lot of your comments and you don't seem to get the term "fair"


Thank you, Jimmy_Stu! Just like you, I have bias towards my team's assets. Unlike you, though, I'm able to understand that draft classes aren't the same throughout the years.

Despite what you think, 17O+2nd+3rd in '23 (a better class than '22) is at least on the same level, if not better, as 7OA+2nd+3rd in '22 (a worse class than '23!).

I told you what I think is fair, which is paying less than what Ottawa paid for a player who got more expensive and recessed.
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