Tempting names but no. Ottawa doesn't want 1 year from a LD when we would need RD. Plus adding a goalie often offered for a 7th rounder and some sad picks?

No.

I think the Sabers would pass it not worth one year of a player for a piece they don't need

Not a fan of either team, but I do think that Sens trade would benefit both teams. Vladar is a solid backup and would be great for OTT since Talbot isn't coming back. Cat would be great up front, but would most likely need to add a first into the deal somewhere. I like Hanifin a lot too, so OTT would be getting a good D

The DeBrincat trade serves neither team's interests.

Sorry.

I don't understand, the Flames get the kind of sniper Huberdeau needs to get his career back on track, and the Sens get a great dman, a goalie when they literally only have one signed currently, and some decent picks for a player who's likely not going to be re-signed.

It seems to me that both teams benefit even if the value may not be equal on both sides which can be changed by pick equity.

It doesn't benefit Ottawa because Hanifin is a rental.

It doesn't benefit Calgary because their defence is now a lot worse without Hanifin.

Backlund would look very nice on our third line, we actually need at least one center that is good both ways, but it's not happening for Rosen. Backlund is a rental , he's not getting 14oa from two years ago.

Hanifin can very easily be re-signed for much less than DeBrincat would cost, this is all assuming he would sign, this would give the Sens one of the best defensive cores in the league.

The Flames have a deep defensive core even without Hanifin so moving from a surplus position into a need for a top 6 winger makes perfect sense to me.

I like Hanifin but he only has 1 year and is LD

Ottawa has Chabot, Sanderson, Chychrun and Brannstrom at LD... I don't remember a LD side as stacked as that before

The return I would be interested from Calgary is :

Andrew Mangiapane + Zary/Pelletier/Wolf/Coronato (any that you find acceptable)

or Andrew Mangiapane + picks

If I'm Calgary, I'm trading Zadorov away somewhere instead of Hanifin.

If I'm Ottawa, I'd want something like #16 overall + Manigapane + Calgary's choice of Vladar or Dube.

Vladar and dube are not equivalent values.

That package is bigger then what the sens got debrincat for.

I do think if the flames move hanifin for a 1st, like lak 22nd from cbj, I could see 22nd oa + vladar + mang.

I dont see them moving 16th oa unless they get around pick.

#22 overall + Mangiapane + Vladar would be fine too.

Backlund for Rosen makes zero sense.

Nevermind the highly likely mutiny that Conroy would invite within a lockerroom already trying to recover from Sutter's mind-games if he were to trade Backlund, who all of the Flames players look up to as being worthy of their captaincy. Backlund's contract status would be secondary to the cultural impact if Calgary dumps him IMO.

. WOW! Delusional Ottawa fans think Flames give up that much for Debrincat? Lol…obviously Ottawa would extend Hanifin making it a very uneven win for Ottawa

lol your type is the best... The real delusional calling others delusional...

Mangiapane is 27 years winger with 2 years left at 5.8 AAV. He had a career year in terms of goal scoring in 2021-22 but still 55 pts in 82 games. Last season, he had 43 pts in 82 games. DeBrincat is 2 years younger, has two 40 goals season under his belt and is near PPG the last 3 years combined. In an off year where his center was injured (Norris), he had 66 pts even though he had to play with a rookie who had just missed a full season due to injury.

You don't think there's a difference in value between DeBrincat and Mangiapane?

Zary turns 22 years old in September and has 83 pts in 125 AHL games, is he that elite prospect who makes the difference between ADB and AM "delusional"?

Kid, please

Ottawa can't afford to trade DeBrincat for a LHD, don't be ridiculous

“Kid please”….I see you cannot respect people, jacka**. Here is why you are delusional one:

1. You are clearly not good with money or management…..Debrincat will cost so much more in salary than Mangiapaine (if traded for each other with/without other assets), meaning you get less back for him in the trade…wake up as there is a hard salary cap….did you see the website name?

2. It’s not a question of “my guy in the past - not a predictor of future - was better” but is truly “my guy will be better value for the money going forward” and Mangiapaine will be the winner there easily at 5.8M per year vs Deb at $9M maybe.

3. As for comparison of the two, it’s likely that Mangiapaine would score nearly as much as Debrincat if he averaged as much TOI as as Deb during the past 5 years…he has averaged almost 4 minutes less…also usually plays 3rd line vs line 1 or 2 for your guy. And clearly the entire Flames team had a poor offensive season in 2022-23 so quite likely Mangiapaine gets to 35-40 goals this coming year at much less money spent.

So in the end, there is a difference in overall value…with Mangi the better value for $. No extra assets needed in a trade for “Deb”….in fact, you convinced me that Debrincat is going to be ann albatross contract going forward so not worth having for any trade. Nice try however, smartguy

I was not the one quoting you, you did. And right off the bat you call me "delusional" then you expect to be respected? lol what a joke

I'm not even reading all you wrote, I know it's going to be pure verbiage. Your type is the best like I said, so rude to others then they cry "police" when they get any retaliation


****, I accidentally read the first little bit "1. You are clearly not good with money or management"


Well, my accounts and assets would disagree!


I gotta resist to the temptation of laughing more at your post and not read anything else!

You clearly resisted replying because I made logical and accurate arguments you cannot refute, plain and simple. You’re not fooling anyone.

PS I also have 2 million in stocks and real estate assets (and yes, I can provide proof) so I can brag about my management skill like you if you wish. I am sure you would not dare to back up your claims. I would!