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Other than Hronek

Created by: Angusc
Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 3, 2023
Published: Jun. 6, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,500,000
1$2,100,000
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. 2024 6th round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (TOR)
2.
VAN
  1. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
3.
LAK
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (VAN)
4.
5.
VAN
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey
Additional Details:
What are Casey and Henri's values?
BUF
  1. Podkolzin, Vasily
  2. 2023 1st round pick (VAN)
  3. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$78,332,361$850,000$30,000$5,167,639
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$883,750$883,750
C
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$786,111$786,111 (Performance Bonus$30,000$30K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$2,650,000$2,650,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Jun. 6, 2023 at 2:26 a.m.
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Sharks arent gonna do that. Why take another year on a bad contract for nothing plus no way MEV waives his NTC
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Jun. 6, 2023 at 2:29 a.m.
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Mittelstadt and Jokiharju really don't hold much value. Both will be NHL regulars next year but definitely not two core pieces for Buffalo's future. Remove one of the firsts and it's still a bad trade for Vancouver.
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Jun. 6, 2023 at 2:38 a.m.
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Quoting: flyersfan412
Mittelstadt and Jokiharju really don't hold much value. Both will be NHL regulars next year but definitely not two core pieces for Buffalo's future. Remove one of the firsts and it's still a bad trade for Vancouver.


A young center who scored 59 points is of no value? You're wrong.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 2:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Fjordy
A young center who scored 59 points is of no value? You're wrong.


I didn't at all say no value, I said not much. And by not much, I was talking about compares to the trade this guy made. Two firsts and a good prospect.
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Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:20 a.m.
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Quoting: flyersfan412
I didn't at all say no value, I said not much. And by not much, I was talking about compares to the trade this guy made. Two firsts and a good prospect.


Looking at this deal, probably yes. Jokiharju is basically not worth much, but Mitts for 1st NYI + Podkolzin looks fair. Podkolzin hasn't shown anything in the NHL yet.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:22 a.m.
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Quoting: Fjordy
Looking at this deal, probably yes. Jokiharju is basically not worth much, but Mitts for 1st NYI + Podkolzin looks fair. Podkolzin hasn't shown anything in the NHL yet.


You're right about Podkolzin but I wouldn't do him + a first for Casey.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:24 a.m.
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Quoting: flyersfan412
You're right about Podkolzin but I wouldn't do him + a first for Casey.


Well I wouldn't trade Mitts just for an mid first, he's good.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 4:18 a.m.
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Quoting: Fjordy
A young center who scored 59 points is of no value? You're wrong.


Doesn't cost the equivalent of 3 top 18 picks. Casey and Henri for our first alone at 11 would be ripe.
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Jun. 6, 2023 at 4:18 a.m.
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Quoting: flyersfan412
Mittelstadt and Jokiharju really don't hold much value. Both will be NHL regulars next year but definitely not two core pieces for Buffalo's future. Remove one of the firsts and it's still a bad trade for Vancouver.


Quoting: Wqrrior
Doesn't cost the equivalent of 3 top 18 picks. Casey and Henri for our first alone at 11 would be ripe.


I value the contracts by both making 5 million in total which is why I put in 2 1sts and Podkolzin who hasn't really lived up to my expectations as a top 10 pick. Also they're both 1st round picks with Casey getting 59 points this season and Joker having potential imo.

Now with having Hronek on the team, they'd have to overpay him next season, as well as Petey's.
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Jun. 6, 2023 at 4:48 a.m.
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Quoting: Fjordy
Well I wouldn't trade Mitts just for an mid first, he's good.


What about 2 1sts which includes ours alongside Pod or is that still an overpay?

Obviously this would be if Vancouver didn't get Hronek
Jun. 6, 2023 at 5:06 a.m.
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Quoting: Angusc
What about 2 1sts which includes ours alongside Pod or is that still an overpay?

Obviously this would be if Vancouver didn't get Hronek


This trade is an overpayment. Perhaps you are not quite right in evaluating Jokiharju.

Example: Jokiharju for Pod (maybe fair). Mitts for 1st NYI+ and this + not as big as 1st VAN this year.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 5:14 a.m.
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Quoting: Wqrrior
Doesn't cost the equivalent of 3 top 18 picks. Casey and Henri for our first alone at 11 would be ripe.


I agree it's overpayment
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Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:54 a.m.
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The Sabres trade is pretty bad for us.
Myers+6th for FC should be fair. If it's not, we should just keep him.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 7:08 a.m.
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Quoting: ChadBradson
Sharks arent gonna do that. Why take another year on a bad contract for nothing plus no way MEV waives his NTC


NMC
Jun. 6, 2023 at 7:17 a.m.
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Quoting: flyersfan412
Mittelstadt and Jokiharju really don't hold much value. Both will be NHL regulars next year but definitely not two core pieces for Buffalo's future. Remove one of the firsts and it's still a bad trade for Vancouver.


Yeah that's not true
Jun. 6, 2023 at 7:19 a.m.
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The Buffalo trade is fair value for Buffalo but I don't think it's what they are looking for. Casey is a 60 point utility forward and Joker is a 2nd or 3rd pair RD with both players totaling 5M. I suspect the Sabres are looking for hockey trades instead of first round picks. But the value is there for sure.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 7:20 a.m.
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Horrible for SJ, easy reject.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 7:35 a.m.
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Quoting: Fjordy
Looking at this deal, probably yes. Jokiharju is basically not worth much, but Mitts for 1st NYI + Podkolzin looks fair. Podkolzin hasn't shown anything in the NHL yet.


Right but this stems from Detroit paying the same they shipped out Hronek for, which i don't see happening.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:07 a.m.
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Kings accept; would prefer second.
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Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:28 a.m.
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I would accept that deal as the Los Angeles GM.

The Anaheim trade is for your 2024 third, not a 2023 pick, because the transaction has to occur in the summer, i.e., after the 2023 draft.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 11:38 a.m.
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3 years of Vlasic at $7 mil or 4 years of OEL at $8.25? Hmmm that’s a really hard decision……not
Jun. 6, 2023 at 12:22 p.m.
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If the Sabres are going to make a playoff push for 23-24 why are would they trade two decent pieces for draft picks?
Jun. 6, 2023 at 6:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Megalodon
NMC


Its a M-NTC (3 teams)
 
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