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Predicting Provorov and Hart trades

Created by: TMLBRIAN
Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 6, 2023
Published: Jun. 6, 2023
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We have most info for Provorov deal. I added in Bean or Boqvist.

Hart prediction is either to Montreal or Ottawa.

Thoughts?
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. Bean, Jake
  2. 2023 1st round pick (LAK)
Additional Details:
I assume Bean or Boqvist will be included
CBJ
  1. Provorov, Ivan
Additional Details:
30% retention by LA
2.
PHI
  1. Grans, Helge
  2. Petersen, Cal
  3. Walker, Sean
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
LAK
3.
PHI
  1. Montembeault, Samuel
  2. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (MTL)
4.
PHI
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
looks like a second is also coming back from Columbus
CBJ
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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19$83,500,000$63,753,929$1,187,500$82,500$19,746,071
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$3,571,429$3,571,429
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
NMC
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
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UFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$785,000$785,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
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UFA - 8
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$5,100,000$5,100,000
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UFA - 4
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UFA - 2
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$2,333,333$2,333,333
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RFA - 1
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$1,675,000$1,675,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
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UFA - 1
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
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UFA - 1
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$847,500$847,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
G
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
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UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 4

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Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:00 p.m.
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I'd be sad if that's the Hart trade to MTL ngl, but definitely not impossible
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Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:01 p.m.
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The habs are not giving up Montembeault in a hart trade thats a lateral move.

If they trade for hart it will be

Allen
2nd round pick
Kidney or kapanen
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:03 p.m.
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Provorov isn't fetching that much
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Black61
The habs are not giving up Montembeault in a hart trade thats a lateral move.

If they trade for hart it will be

Allen
2nd round pick
Kidney or kapanen


Its gonna be way more than that
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Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Black61
The habs are not giving up Montembeault in a hart trade thats a lateral move.

If they trade for hart it will be

Allen
2nd round pick
Kidney or kapanen


LMFAO 😂😂😂 Allen and a second for nothing is good and then adding kidney for hart 💀💀💀
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:04 p.m.
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Quoting: LukaTAG
Provorov isn't fetching that much


Petersen is a HUGE negative contract.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:08 p.m.
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I would predict Hart is going to LA.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:09 p.m.
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Quoting: GMBL
I would predict Hart is going to LA.


Not enough assets are leaving LA (that we know of) to have Hart also being involved in that trade.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:10 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Not enough assets are leaving LA (that we know of) to have Hart also being involved in that trade.


Might be in a second trade. I think LA would still need to dump cap since they want to sign Gavrikov. So, maybe it involves another team especially if they are retaining on Provorov.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Black61
The habs are not giving up Montembeault in a hart trade thats a lateral move.

If they trade for hart it will be

Allen
2nd round pick
Kidney or kapanen



it will be much more than that.... and i'm an habs fan
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:12 p.m.
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Why would Bean or Boqvist be added if PHI is already getting Walker and Grans? How many Dmen do you think they need?

Grans + 1st + two 2nds is already a heck of return even if they’re taking on Peterson. Briere did well.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:13 p.m.
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Its gonna be way more than that


Ive done the historical trades for goalies in the last few months and it says no.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:19 p.m.
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Don't mean to undermind your AGM, just a comment. With the recent result that Montembault put up, and the development he had during the season, I would be very surprised if Hugues made a move to trade him out, even for Hart. He's showing high potential and I think they'll want to keep him around.

Now, I have no clue what would be needed to bring in Hart, but with Sam in Mtl they suddenlydon't have a rush to move fast. Many said Montembault would not be a good 1st goalie at the start of the season, but his progression changed many's opinion of him. Not saying he'll be the next Roy or Price, but surely a good no 1 if he keeps on that path.

Hart has high value, not sure what Habs could send that would actually be of interest to the Flyers. And Brière may just keep him in order to ensure a solid goalie in a year or two.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:19 p.m.
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Maybe Buffalo could be a destination for Hart if it's not MTL or Ottawa or LA. Pittsburgh is another team that needs a goalie.
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Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:20 p.m.
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Maybe Buffalo could be a destination for Hart if it's not MTL or Ottawa or LA.


Very true! Buffalo 1st is 13th overall.

Maybe 13th overall straight up for Hart?
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.
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Very true! Buffalo 1st is 13th overall.

Maybe 13th overall straight up for Hart?


Buffalo has UPL and Levi, so I think one of them would be in there but perhaps it could be a goalie+pick swap for both sides.

Pittsburgh does have the 15th OV and the need for a goalie, and considering Dubas probably didn't do a lot of draft planning for that high up I wouldn't be surprised. He might not want to trust the current scouting team's report with that pick.
Jun. 6, 2023 at 3:40 p.m.
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Buffalo has UPL and Levi, so I think one of them would be in there but perhaps it could be a goalie+pick swap for both sides.

Pittsburgh does have the 15th OV and the need for a goalie, and considering Dubas probably didn't do a lot of draft planning for that high up I wouldn't be surprised. He might not want to trust the current scouting team's report with that pick.


Definitely won't be Levi. He is a stud.

Dubas is super smart. I am sure he knows the draft very well. GMs plan for all possible draft scenarios, since they can always acquire picks. Dubas will know the draft very well. I am confident in that. But Pittsburgh could be a fit for sure.
 
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