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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 7, 2023
Published: Jun. 7, 2023
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Free Agent Signings
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2$1,150,000
3$950,000
8$7,825,000
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1.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
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MTL
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (MTL)
ARI
  1. Gurianov, Denis [RFA Rights]
  2. 2023 5th round pick (CGY)
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2023
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23$83,500,000$73,046,666$1,170,000$4,275,000$10,453,334
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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$885,000$885,000 (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
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G
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RD
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$828,333$828,333
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ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.
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Whatever the habs feel hes worth to not disrespect Chevy. If they felt like it, they could offer a 4th rounder cause either way hes a Habs players at that salary, some team pays him 1.5-2m over that (anything less i think he picks montreal) or Jets refuse to trade Dubois signs in arb for 1 year and hes a FA in 2024 and the habs get him for free.
Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:09 p.m.
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Florida 1st, good prospect (like Mailloux) + 2 x 2nds.

Anything less than that is a super big steal for Montreal.
Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:13 p.m.
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Quoting: JeffGorton
Whatever the habs feel hes worth to not disrespect Chevy. If they felt like it, they could offer a 4th rounder cause either way hes a Habs players at that salary, some team pays him 1.5-2m over that (anything less i think he picks montreal) or Jets refuse to trade Dubois signs in arb for 1 year and hes a FA in 2024 and the habs get him for free.


If mtl doesn't trade for him when he's lowered his value so low for the Habs to get him cheap why would he want to sign there if it comes to that? Hughes still need to present an offer that isn't an insult being a deal probably 2023 Florida 1st kidney Dvorak
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:13 p.m.
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Dvorak, Kidney, FLA 1st was a fair deal to begin with and it's a fair deal now. Let's get the 8 x $$ sign and trade over with so we can all move on from PLD trades ...
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
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Dvorak, Kidney, FLA 1st was a fair deal to begin with and it's a fair deal now. Let's get the 8 x $$ sign and trade over with so we can all move on from PLD trades ...


I'd probably try to get 1 more small asset with it like norlinder or maybe primeau. It's definitely fair but just 1 small other thing would be nice to see tbh
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:17 p.m.
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Dvorak, Kidney, FLA 1st was a fair deal to begin with and it's a fair deal now. Let's get the 8 x $$ sign and trade over with so we can all move on from PLD trades ...


I’ve always thought this was going to be the end result, except with Beck and 17OA lol.
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Howie
If mtl doesn't trade for him when he's lowered his value so low for the Habs to get him cheap why would he want to sign there if it comes to that? Hughes still need to present an offer that isn't an insult being a deal probably 2023 Florida 1st kidney Dvorak


The 1st would probably be CAL 2025 instead though
Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:18 p.m.
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I'd probably try to get 1 more small asset with it like norlinder or maybe primeau. It's definitely fair but just 1 small other thing would be nice to see tbh


Norlinder is all yours, we don't have enough G depth to trade Primeau without a G option of some sort in return though.
Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:18 p.m.
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He is an RFA expire and will get between $6.5M - $8.5M on his next deal, putting his OS draft pick value as a 2024 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick. There is only 11 teams that fit that range. If someone wants to trade for PLD, they are going to have to pony up the equivalent of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder to get him
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:19 p.m.
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Norlinder is all yours, we don't have enough G depth to trade Primeau without a G option of some sort in return though.


Fair enough 2023 Florida 1st kidney Norlinder and Dvorak
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:20 p.m.
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I’ve always thought this was going to be the end result, except with Beck and 17OA lol.


I've never been on board with trading Beck lol I've pretty well been Dvorak, Kidney, FLA 1st (as long as it was 17 or later) since the start of this debacle. Just really seemed to fit the mold of an adequate trade imo.
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:20 p.m.
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Quoting: VladislavTretiak
The 1st would probably be CAL 2025 instead though


Probably going to cost more for waiting that time for the pick Probably around a 3rd in value to wait for the Calgary pick
Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:23 p.m.
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He's got more value then this, GMs aren't actively looking to **** another one over.
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:25 p.m.
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Apparently all of the GM's are in one big group chat. Chevy is definitely getting his phone lit up with offers. We'll just have to see.
Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:26 p.m.
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Probably going to cost more for waiting that time for the pick Probably around a 3rd in value to wait for the Calgary pick


The Calgary 1st pick has quite of a complex and cryptic condition but I've read somewhere that it would be more of a 2024 pick than a 2025.

Nevertheless it remains a fair deal under the circumstances.
Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:30 p.m.
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He had value few weeks ago. Now it's trade me or I don't play : so NONE. Gurianov CGY 1st and one of Farrell Kidney or Mesar. I've told everyone that the leverage was on MTL side and none of you Jets fans were ok with it. Now you'll pay the throwback !
Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Ennis
Apparently all of the GM's are in one big group chat. Chevy is definitely getting his phone lit up with offers. We'll just have to see.


He won't cause on backhand Brisson told many DG that his client was going only to one team. Every phone lines are dead. It's KH vs KC.
Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
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Quoting: phillyjabroni
He is an RFA expire and will get between $6.5M - $8.5M on his next deal, putting his OS draft pick value as a 2024 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick. There is only 11 teams that fit that range. If someone wants to trade for PLD, they are going to have to pony up the equivalent of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounder to get him


Minus the fact that he want out to one team ... It's Trouba all over again, but this time KC do not hold the leverage AT ALL!
Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:35 p.m.
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There is no leverage for Winnipeg

The team that gets PLD will have won the trade

https://illegalcurve.com/ts-insider-trading-pierre-luc-dubois-seeking-a-trade-out-of-winnipeg-jets-looking-to-shake-up-their-core/
Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:36 p.m.
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Brinson would not have made the comments if there was any chance at it tanking PLD's value cause it would also affect his bargaining power with regards to an extension.
Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.
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I've never been on board with trading Beck lol I've pretty well been Dvorak, Kidney, FLA 1st (as long as it was 17 or later) since the start of this debacle. Just really seemed to fit the mold of an adequate trade imo.


Maybe a sweetener to adjust for the Florida pick, or toss in the 2nd as well if we take Armia as a dump?
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Jun. 7, 2023 at 8:46 p.m.
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Maybe a sweetener to adjust for the Florida pick, or toss in the 2nd as well if we take Armia as a dump?


@Howie negotiated the addition of Norlinder on WPG behalf, I hope you will also find this to be acceptable
Jun. 7, 2023 at 9:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Howie
I'd probably try to get 1 more small asset with it like norlinder or maybe primeau. It's definitely fair but just 1 small other thing would be nice to see tbh


I could see Hoffman instead of Dvo and Ylonen added to compensate
Jun. 7, 2023 at 9:05 p.m.
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I could see Hoffman instead of Dvo and Ylonen added to compensate


So Ylonen, Kidney 2023 first and Dvorak?
Jun. 7, 2023 at 9:05 p.m.
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So Ylonen, Kidney 2023 first and Dvorak?


Ylonen, kidney, Fla first and hoffman. Could even add a fourth
 
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