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Dubois its done

Created by: habitantlecolon
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 8, 2023
Published: Jun. 9, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Habs are bigger, with more defense first players who can bring offense.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,475,000
4$7,850,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Dvorsky, Dalibor
3$950,000
Trades
1.
DAL
  1. Armia, Joel ($425,000 retained)
  2. 2023 4th round pick (PIT)
2.
MTL
  1. Iorio, Vincent
  2. Mantha, Anthony
  3. 2023 1st round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Edmundson, Joel
  2. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
3.
PHI
  1. Kidney, Riley
  2. Ylönen, Jesse [RFA Rights]
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (MTL)
4.
ARI
  1. Price, Carey
  2. 2023 4th round pick (VGK)
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (MTL)
5.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Evans, Jake
  3. Mailloux, Logan
  4. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
1st top ten protected.

2 conditions :

1- Dubois need to be among the 3 best scorers of the team
2- If the pick is top 10 Jets have the choice to pick 2024 CGY 1st rounder if not traded or getting the worst 1st between CGY and MTL in 2025.
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$72,717,500$1,170,000$4,252,500$10,782,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$7,850,000$7,850,000
C
UFA - 8
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,475,000$1,475,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Dvorsky, Dalibor
$950,000$950,000
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
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UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$814,167$814,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
RD
RFA - 3
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$5,291,667$5,291,667
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2

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Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:20 a.m.
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Depending on the outcome of the Mailloux meeting I think its doable. Does he get cleared to play though? Everyone seems to think there's no possible way he doesn't get reinstated to be able to play but maybe it's not so guaranteed? Idk
Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:24 a.m.
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Flyers accept
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:29 a.m.
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Depending on the outcome of the Mailloux meeting I think its doable. Does he get cleared to play though? Everyone seems to think there's no possible way he doesn't get reinstated to be able to play but maybe it's not so guaranteed? Idk


He is reinstated, other wise Bettman would have made a statement prior to his answer the other day. The kid have followed EVERY single detailed or named things that he has to do and showed remorse and even set is path on a bright side through all this. He fully deserve a chance.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:29 a.m.
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That trade is as good as a TDL trade. A 6 team bidding war gets a whole lot more than that
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:30 a.m.
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Flyers accept


this will help you on long term. It's a big price for Habs, but getting Laughton and Faksa to reignite Gally will be a blessing.
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:31 a.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
He is reinstated, other wise Bettman would have made a statement prior to his answer the other day. The kid have followed EVERY single detailed or named things that he has to do and showed remorse and even set is path on a bright side through all this. He fully deserve a chance.


Yeah but still he hasn't been reinstated yet so until that happens I wouldn't 100% guarantee it especially with the president set with what choices he's made before. Also what can Evans be swapped with prospect/pick wise? Seeing if it's worth changing him to something else
Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:31 a.m.
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That trade is as good as a TDL trade. A 6 team bidding war gets a whole lot more than that


the 6 teams «building» is a pure rumor out of few wishfull thinking journalist looking for clicbaits.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:35 a.m.
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Montreal's "leverage" has evaporated. They won't be able to force garbage on the Jets now.
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Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:43 a.m.
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the 6 teams «building» is a pure rumor out of few wishfull thinking journalist looking for clicbaits.


It may....but a TDL trade or even a one year trade to a contending team gets more than that
Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:45 a.m.
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Yeah but still he hasn't been reinstated yet so until that happens I wouldn't 100% guarantee it especially with the president set with what choices he's made before. Also what can Evans be swapped with prospect/pick wise? Seeing if it's worth changing him to something else


you get a former 1st rounder in Mailloux and a top ten protected 1st in 2024 and yet you want to change an nhl ready player for another prospect .... You might want to rethink a tad. As for the reinstatement you will be surprised. He was reinstated in OHL play a season and even shown how he can step up even with his past. It's even a formality for few journalists like Renaud Lavoie.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:46 a.m.
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Montreal's "leverage" has evaporated. They won't be able to force garbage on the Jets now.


Jets has and will never have ever again any kind of leverage. you are dreaming... keep going anyway everyone here know where you're at !!
Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:47 a.m.
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It may....but a TDL trade or even a one year trade to a contending team gets more than that


name me 6 contender who has any kind of asset and cap space to do so.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:48 a.m.
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Dubois is probably going to want 8 years (has to be a sign and trade) or 7 at the least.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:49 a.m.
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name me 6 contender who has any kind of asset and cap space to do so.


Not sure what you guys are talking about but Carolina is one.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:50 a.m.
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Not sure what you guys are talking about but Carolina is one.


Carolina doesn't want to spare their young core players in such deal. They are looking for patchwork.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:57 a.m.
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Carolina doesn't want to spare their young core players in such deal. They are looking for patchwork.


Are you guys talking about Dubois?

I could see them go for him, there's also Colorado who could afford them for the year with Landeskog out, nit sure they will have the assets.

I don't think there would be 6 contending teams though but other teams that could be interested are CGY (if Lindholm isn't extended) , CBJ (😂), STL, and maybe WSH (if they can offload Kuznetsov).

The package you proposed is solid though considering there's a lot of good pieces with team control.
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Are you guys talking about Dubois?

I could see them go for him, there's also Colorado who could afford them for the year with Landeskog out, nit sure they will have the assets.

I don't think there would be 6 contending teams though but other teams that could be interested are CGY (if Lindholm isn't extended) , CBJ (😂), STL, and maybe WSH (if they can offload Kuznetsov).


to say so : Toronto Colorado, Carolina, Vegas, Rangers etc. are all out on Dubois. Things are that no top team want to spare part nor have enough young quality guy to deal in such horizon. Also Dubois talks about wanting out is stated as red flag by many (for myself I don't buy the idea that the kid is a room cancer, but ...!). So yeah the famous 6 teams rumor is pure fantasy in hope to see Winterpeg having few leverage here and there when in fact they do not have any kind at all. It would've been different at last tdl tho.

I don't see STL jump in such biding war and lol for CBJ. Washington might want it, but need a full rebuild and are way back from MTL, so I don't see them try a bounce back nor a 1vs1 dubois vs kuznetsov
Jun. 9, 2023 at 1:19 a.m.
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if price is LTIR for the three years how much is paid by insurance vs team?
Jun. 9, 2023 at 1:20 a.m.
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to say so : Toronto Colorado, Carolina, Vegas, Rangers etc. are all out on Dubois. Things are that no top team want to spare part nor have enough young quality guy to deal in such horizon. Also Dubois talks about wanting out is stated as red flag by many (for myself I don't buy the idea that the kid is a room cancer, but ...!). So yeah the famous 6 teams rumor is pure fantasy in hope to see Winterpeg having few leverage here and there when in fact they do not have any kind at all. It would've been different at last tdl tho.

I don't see STL jump in such biding war and lol for CBJ. Washington might want it, but need a full rebuild and are way back from MTL, so I don't see them try a bounce back nor a 1vs1 dubois vs kuznetsov


There's going to be multiple teams that want him, what it's going to come down to though is how many teams he wants to play for, if it's just MTL something like this (maybe slightly less) is all that it's going to take. Although, even if it's not just MTL I don't think it takes more.

I think something would get done sooner rather than later if it's just MTL, so I think Flr pick+ MTLs 2nd + Mailloux (for example) + Dvorak (probably doesn't have enough termm) or (maybe Anderson and a lesser prospect) is all that it would take. PLD is a good young C, but I don't think his return will even compare to injured Eichel's.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 1:34 a.m.
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There's going to be multiple teams that want him, what it's going to come down to though is how many teams he wants to play for, if it's just MTL something like this (maybe slightly less) is all that it's going to take. Although, even if it's not just MTL I don't think it takes more.

I think something would get done sooner rather than later if it's just MTL, so I think Flr pick+ MTLs 2nd + Mailloux (for example) + Dvorak (probably doesn't have enough termm) or (maybe Anderson and a lesser prospect) is all that it would take. PLD is a good young C, but I don't think his return will even compare to injured Eichel's.


My offer here is quite close to what he can fetch. I don't think that 2023 picks are among the 1st they will get because team still want to have them at the draft. If a deal is made at this time probably 2024 1st will be on the table.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 2:12 a.m.
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My offer here is quite close to what he can fetch. I don't think that 2023 picks are among the 1st they will get because team still want to have them at the draft. If a deal is made at this time probably 2024 1st will be on the table.


Honestly, it's probably better for MTL to give up the FLR pick rather than their own even though it's a deep draft. If they end up 11-15th OV next year there's still a good chance that guy turns out better than 31st OV in this draft, adding the 2023 2nd pick though might be an issue though since that player could still easily be round 1 caliber, so perhaps it's a 2024 2nd instead.

A big RHD with offensive upside like Mailloux probably won't even be on the table, especially since that is a need for MTL. So, maybe something more realistic is

2023 FLR 1st + 2024 MTL 2nd + Riley Kidney + Ylonen + Josh Anderson for Pierre Luc Dubois (signed at 8MX8)+ 2024 WPG (3rd/4th/5th).

MTL might need to shed some cap so it could be both Anderson and Dvorak going:

2023 FLR 1st + Riley Kidney + Josh Anderson+ Christian Dvorak for Pierre Luc Dubois (signed at 8MX8)+ 2024 WPG 5th

Structurally, not relative value-wise, the 1st is more like the Eichel trade while the second is a bit more like the Tkachuk trade.

You might be right about other teams offering 2024 1st and even MTL but I think Hughes might want to keep his own pick.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 2:35 a.m.
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Honestly, it's probably better for MTL to give up the FLR pick rather than their own even though it's a deep draft. If they end up 11-15th OV next year there's still a good chance that guy turns out better than 31st OV in this draft, adding the 2023 2nd pick though might be an issue though since that player could still easily be round 1 caliber, so perhaps it's a 2024 2nd instead.

A big RHD with offensive upside like Mailloux probably won't even be on the table, especially since that is a need for MTL. So, maybe something more realistic is

2023 FLR 1st + 2024 MTL 2nd + Riley Kidney + Ylonen + Josh Anderson for Pierre Luc Dubois (signed at 8MX8)+ 2024 WPG (3rd/4th/5th).

MTL might need to shed some cap so it could be both Anderson and Dvorak going:

2023 FLR 1st + Riley Kidney + Josh Anderson+ Christian Dvorak for Pierre Luc Dubois (signed at 8MX8)+ 2024 WPG 5th

Structurally, not relative value-wise, the 1st is more like the Eichel trade while the second is a bit more like the Tkachuk trade.

You might be right about other teams offering 2024 1st and even MTL but I think Hughes might want to keep his own pick.


In a deal up there i'm gettin Iorio and we still have panther 1st so we can go with Dragicevic or Strbak ... ! Also Habs won't move Anderson cuz we want to play him with Dubois.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 2:46 a.m.
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In a deal up there i'm gettin Iorio and we still have panther 1st so we can go with Dragicevic or Strbak ... ! Also Habs won't move Anderson cuz we want to play him with Dubois.


While I think WSH wouldn't mind moving up, they might not want to part ways with Iorio (idk) even so, his offense in the WHL doesn't compare to Mailloux's OHL production. Mailloux being a Quebec-born player and MTL pick probably doesn't get dealt even if they get him since it seems Hughes is collecting Quebec-born players.

MTL has Slafkovsky, he's not ready yet but better off giving him that ice time for when he is, Anderson doesn't fit the Habs timeline so dealing him should be a priority. On the flip side, WPG unless they are rebuilding is going to want a player with offensive upside that has term that can replace Dubois.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 2:55 a.m.
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While I think WSH wouldn't mind moving up, they might not want to part ways with Iorio (idk) even so, his offense in the WHL doesn't compare to Mailloux's OHL production. Mailloux being a Quebec-born player and MTL pick probably doesn't get dealt even if they get him since it seems Hughes is collecting Quebec-born players.

MTL has Slafkovsky, he's not ready yet but better off giving him that ice time for when he is, Anderson doesn't fit the Habs timeline so dealing him should be a priority. On the flip side, WPG unless they are rebuilding is going to want a player with offensive upside that has term that can replace Dubois.



either they par way with Iorio or i want Chesley if they move up. As for Mailloux is from Ontario.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 2:58 a.m.
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either they par way with Iorio or i want Chesley if they move up. As for Mailloux is from Ontario.


Lol, I'm guessing his parents are from Quebec but who knows maybe they are from some other francophone region or country. He's still an own (teams not Hughes) draft pick that looks promising, so Iorio would need to come in and show that he's not needed for him to get dealt imo.
 
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