This is true, but then Kopitar has to be extended, as does Byfield, Roy, Spence, among others. We don’t know how much Vilardi is going to make, and the Kings also don’t have a starting goalie yet either. But hey, if they can make Wilson work I’m all for it.

Well obviously no prospect is guaranteed... I was just giving examples of success stories, my point is the Avs are going to keep him for his upside. Id be happy to give a different prospect on top of the 1st

you are looking at all situations and not 5v5.... you should use naturalstattrick its way better

so focused on pp and nothing else.... he has great possession numbers and is still solid defensively. lol look outside box scores and learn about other areas that matter

if not him i would want
Behrens
Olausson
Annunen

in that order

Nope, you can filter down to 5v5 like I did. -12 on a team that’s +10 as a whole getting more ozone starts than dzone 5v5 and having negative relative corsi and fenwick metrics kinda matter. That along with over 40% both last year and total career points coming from the power play

Also shooting 8+% regularly isn’t likely, and only 13 points at 5v5 were of the primary variety (goal or first assist)

The further dug, the less interest Buffalo should have in an already a gut reject type of trade.

It depends on the other C's available but if they cant find a better fit then Id do Olausson + 1st with for Kuznetsov 50% retained

Also just a little aside, you should take your own advice and look at Krebs numbers outside the box score. I saw you had mentioned he only had a high of 26 points. And that’s true. It’s also true that he has fantastic relative corsi and fenwick scores while being deployed mainly in the defensive zone.

I'm positive you dont know how to read that stats you are trying to quote. lol explain why you would use relative corsi ? La had a top 5 powerplay last year and it was a big reason for their success. Do you think that has no value? Mcdavid pp vs 5v5 point % was what?

Durzi doesn’t exactly fit our need of a physical defensive defenseman thus making the trade uninteresting to us.

He had a negative relative Corsi. A negative fenwick score. LA was better 5v5 with others on the ice than him. He had more than 50% ozone starts and was PP reliant. And only 13 of those points were primary. Anyways, gonna completely ignore that Krebs was better in all the metrics you are showing as positive for Durzi?

Kings accept with one of 50% retention or an extension in place.

Again you arent intelligent enough to understand the stats you are quoting.... but here is YOUR site comparing both players lol

https://stathead.com/hockey/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=krebspe01&p1yrfrom=2023&player_id1=durzise01&p2yrfrom=2023&request=1&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_source=hr&utm_medium=sr_xsite&utm_id=durzise01

The fact that you keep saying I don’t understand stats and at the same time claim Durzi doesn’t get more offensive deployment than defensive deployment at 5v5 is both puzzling and hilarious to me. Get the last word if you must.

Durzi plays 20 minute and was a top 4 denfender and Krebs was a 3rd / 4th line center? WTF would Krebs get more offensive zone deployment? Krebs DPS is marginally less and his xgf% is 45.45%.

Krebs 5v5
xgf% 45.45
oz start % 48.34%
oz faceoff % 47.46
Krebs was on ice for only 30gf 35against
PS 1.9

Durzi
xgf% 51.34
oz start % 46.83%
oz faceoff % 50.50%
Durzi was on ice for 46g and 50 against.
PS 8.4 WAY HIGHER

again you dont understand that their are differences in OZ starts and you clearly think that PP points matter less but Durzi vs Krebs 22p 5v5 vs 21p 5v5. Power had 27p 5v5 and Dahlin had 35p. 48% of his points were pp

olofsson currently playing Durzi spot on 1pp and is likely being traded

So Durzi’s actual trade worth mildly less than just the flyers 2nd this year alone.. maybe he’s not this huge analytics darling after all.

Or LA is gaining assets to trade for PLD? AGIAN thinking you actually understand anything you posted is still laughable. LA got a good pick for a player in a position they had a ton of depth. Theyll likely flip that pick for a goalie or PLD

He got a one asset which has lower value than the lowest piece you suggested and argued for. But somehow you’re right. Can’t make some of the **** up I see in here.

And again, his value comes from the PP which he wouldn’t get (at least PP 1). And no Olofsson doesn’t play on the PP 1 anymore like you stated. Dahlin, Tage, Tuch, skinner, and Cozens were the PP1 for most of the year.

Habs 2nd is lower than Philly this year? habs finished bottom 5... Philly was 7th? lol DUMB af again. do you think the Habs wont be a lottery team again next year? pick is likely around 37oa Durzi got a 2nd i said he was worth a 2nd + a bottom 6 center / a kid who is currently Buffalos 3rd/ 4th line center. his value isnt anything crazy. RyJo was just trade for free at 50%... lol like WTF is your point. my trade was reasonable close. you didnt even know that there were 2 separate stats for Ozone starts or that you were looking at all situations not 5v5 at one point. "i cant make this **** up" yeah you are clueles and copy and paste stats you dont understand / know how to read. cool

Yeah stopped reading after the first sentence. Pick was for the 24 2nd. Pick 39 this year has more value than an unknown second next year. Shoot one could even argue that pick 39 has roughly the same value as pick 33 (if Mtl was the absolute worst team in the league) next year. Current years picks hold more value. Since you don’t even understand that basic concept I think we’re done here. The people actually making decisions on the value of these players have spoken and they sided with me that Durzi isn’t worth 39 + Krebs. Good luck in future debates, this one backfired on you in real time.

Just look at the comment section under that trade.... ITS VERY obvious that LA under sold him and other will agree. claiming that one pick is better than another when the picks are both 2nd rounders is also funny. you are very clueless and should REALLY focus on how to read stats and understand them. You AGIAN dont know what you are quoting or what they mean. it embarrassing. BUT again look at the comment section if you need clarity

If it makes you feel better. You win.