I think we can do better than #32 OA at the TDL for TRad.

TOR accepts 100%

That’s the only way you’d get a 1st, if it’s the last pick of the round. I like him and I like his contract, but a first is a ridiculous ask.

Better? The guy scored 20 goals… not 40.

With the Jeannot trade as precedent, No GM can afford to trade him away in the offseason for that new team to pull this haul. Cap constraints and RFA status are big parts of the trade value. I'm not saying he'll get everything Jeannot got, but even half of it is better than above.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/685531

If someone is stupid enough to give even half of what Jeannot got more power to you. The guy is worth a 2nd round pick.

I like our chances at the end of this round vs a similarly slated pick next year.

Hmm, IDK. I understand the desire to accumulate in a good draft. I just think we can get those 1sts (or at least advancements into the 1st) via cap dumps. Granlund/Bailey/VAN player etc... With the cap situation only going to $83.5...this TDL will be another round of what else can we afford for cup contenders. It might be picks down the road, but do we really want 10ish picks in any single draft? Yes it's a deep draft.

Yes we want all the draft picks lol. In seriousness, I would like to pick up a pick at the end of the 1st (Boston pick from Toronto, Colorado, Vegas, NYR are ones I am eyeing as possible by using multiple later picks to move up) and then upgrade that pick or #19 to something a little higher than 19....Van. Cal. or Pitts are my targets. I am with you (and Davidson has said the same that we won't be using all our picks) that having 10 picks in the draft is silly. My ideal draft is wheel and deal where we end up w/ Bedard, 11 or 14, something in the mid to late 20's, and only a couple 2nds. We have more than enough 2nds, cap space, TRad, maybe Murphy to make it happen and even add a pick or 2 in future drafts

I would look at it more as why not move Raddysh now if we could get a first rounder (pretty good value improvement from the Hagel trade) AND start working on a Raddysh 2.0 somewhere (via free agency or trade) instead of taking a risk that he will be worth a greater or comparable value at the deadline.

To your point about the draft picks, we can always try to use those to move up from whatever pick we get in a Raddysh trade.

Great stuff, Guys. I think the Hawks are in an incredibly fortunate situation, having not only lucked in the #1 OA, but with 7 other picks across the first, second, and third rounds. We've seen KD work the last draft - ending up with three first round picks when the Hawks had none to start with.

With THIS draft, as deep and glorious as it is, I want as many shots at impact players as we can get. We may not use all our picks to draft players, but if by that KD meant he was gonna COMBINE them to move up and grab more first round selections this year... That could be very impactful.

And if, in addition, we could combine some of our roster players with critical cap relief for some teams, we could get even MORE picks and prospects - now and/or in the future. I think EDM is an especially attractive target. I think in their minds, anything less than a Cup with McDavid will be a failure. They are really up against the cap and without getting relief from it, it may be impossible to improve.

The Hawks have just the remedy for them - the ability to take dead wood players from them for BIG cap relief (I'm thinking Campbell, among others) that they can then use to acquire other players to get better NOW. If we also included Raddysh in the deal, that combination could bring quite the haul of draft picks and prospects in return. There are quite a few other contenders in cap hell, too, who might (should?) jump at this type of deal. The Hawks are best positioned to provide it for them.

We likely have an interesting couple of weeks ahead of us, running up to and through the draft.

Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't be too upset if it happened. It's probably just bias in me, but #32 just sounds like a 2nd rounder to me...which I'm for, but hopefully taking cap dumps conman get us what we need. That's all.

Show me another young(ish) forward with a cap hit lower than league minimum that scored 20 goals on one of the worst teams in the NHL last season.

I'd like to mention that it is possible teams don't want to move their picks in this years draft, and I wouldn't blame them. Between the level of talent and depth of this draft, and the limited/weak UFA class, there isn't a whole lot of incentive to open up cap space immediately for some teams, other than maybe trying to get ahead of the curve. Trading 2023 picks to get higher picks in future drafts wouldn't be a bad move, if that is what it comes down to. They could just keep snowballing those picks until they have another high first in 2024, 2025, or 2026. Which I know doesn't have the same IMMEDIATE satisfaction for fans, but could be great for the long term big picture and ensure they don't have too many players and contracts coming up all at once. Also, just like there are roster and contract limits, there is also a limit on how many players a team can hold the rights to at any given time.

I feel like there is a limit to how much that would snowball, for example is it realistic to see a team trade a 24 first for a cap dump + a lower 23 2nd/3rd? I think there is a big barrier between getting a 2nd in a couple years vs a first.

I don't know why there is a limit or a barrier. There is no limit to how many trades a team can make. But even if there is, what's the difference? If KD is satisfied with, say, 4 picks in the first 3 rounds this year, they could just package the rest or even sell them off individually for later picks and/or future picks, and then those can be repackaged for other means. A team might be willing to sacrifice a little to get someone they are really high on right now. The only limit is having enough time and interested parties to get it done.