Klostin is pointless for the Flyers. It's going to cost three pieces to get TK:

2023 first (If the Oilers can trade for one in a 3 team deal)
2024 first
Broberg
Bouragault
Holloway

Any 3 of those pieces gets it done, otherwise no dice.

you guys act like he's worth more then marner

Ur a Leafs fan I couldn’t care less about ur opinion if I tried

Oilers fans are overrating their prospects and picks because their prospect pool is below average and they currently don't have a 2023 first.

Gautheir
Number 7 overall pick
York
Foerster
Number 22 pick

Those are currently the Flyers top 5 prospects. Broberg would slide into the 3rd or 4th spot either just above or below York. Bourgault or Holloway wouldn't even be top 5 after the Flyers pick someone at 22 and would be 7th at best if Broberg were included in the deal.

People also don't seem to understand the difference between a team actively shopping someone and other teams calling trying to get them. If a team like the Oilers wants a TK who the Flyers would trade but also would gladly keep they have to pay a premium and make it worth their while. Detroit fans here have already said they would give up 17, 43, and Zadina for TK which is quite simply a better offer than a 2024 first, Broberg, and Bourgault.

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TK has scored 30 goals. He is not a 30 goal scorer.
I don’t understand why you can’t fathom this?

Calling a player a 30 Goal scorer Implies it’s happened multiple times and it’s what you should expect from that player.

Saying he’s scored 30 goals implies it’s happened once and it can be assumed he is capable of reaching that level again but it’s not a guaranty.

TK has 1 30 goal season, yea he also has a bunch of mid 20’s seasons and puts up very solid numbers no doubt. can he score 30 again? Yes! Is it all but assured the team that trades for him is getting 30 goals next year? No.

That’s the difference.

As for your comparisons, you make far too many valid points and yea I think I concede that portion of the argument. I think I’m undervaluing him to much and that’s not fair so my apologies there.

Yeah, it's really not that complicated, but Philly is always gonna Philly. TK is a career 20 goal scorer with a career high at 30. It's that simple.

Thank you! Now it TK goes out and scores 30+ next year I can feel comfortable calling him a 30 goal scorer.
I will say he wasn’t wrong about how I was underrating TK as he is a very good hockey player.

Welcome to Philly, babyyyyyyy. They do that.

He's very good, totally. He's just not going to get McDavid + 10 years of 1st round picks for him like he wants. lol.

I see TK realistically getting a 1st, a 2nd, and a good prospect back personally.

He's very good, totally. He's just not going to get McDavid + 10 years of 1st round picks for him like he wants. lol.

Somewhere above Fialla but bellow Meier and Debrincat is my assumption. So close to what your saying makes sense

Somewhere above Fialla but bellow Meier and Debrincat is my assumption. So close to what your saying makes sense

TK has scored 30 goals. He is not a 30 goal scorer.
I don’t understand why you can’t fathom this?

Calling a player a 30 Goal scorer Implies it’s happened multiple times and it’s what you should expect from that player.

Saying he’s scored 30 goals implies it’s happened once and it can be assumed he is capable of reaching that level again but it’s not a guaranty.

TK has 1 30 goal season, yea he also has a bunch of mid 20’s seasons and puts up very solid numbers no doubt. can he score 30 again? Yes! Is it all but assured the team that trades for him is getting 30 goals next year? No.

That’s the difference.

As for your comparisons, you make far too many valid points and yea I think I concede that portion of the argument. I think I’m undervaluing him to much and that’s not fair so my apologies there.

All good man. This is actually the best and most interesting hockey discussion I have had since signing up for these boards.

Now we are finding some common ground.

Fiala went for 19 and Brock Faber

A comparable with the Oilers for TK would be a 2024 first (less valuable than a pick in the current year) and Philip Broberg, plus a sweetener. I view Bourgault or Holloway as a sweetener and not a prime asset so perhaps that's where we differ. The Flyers can also take on the Yamamoto cap dump if that makes a difference for Edmonton.

All good man. This is actually the best and most interesting hockey discussion I have had since signing up for these boards.

Agree you have a lot of insight and really I think we only disagree about semantics at this point.

Welcome to Philly, babyyyyyyy. They do that.