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Core 4 No More

Created by: Rooney
Team: 2023-24 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 15, 2023
Published: Jun. 15, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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This was a bit of a gongshow to put together and I know already the LA trade is probably WAY off...so try and cut me a little slack LA fans but I do want your feedback! Who would you give up for Hellebuyck (50% retained) & Dubois?

The WSH trade was also a bit of a mess and I know my value is probably totally off.

Signing Hill is risky and I was debating between him and Jarry...I don't know what our other options would be?

Either way, this is different from what I normally propose, just wanted to have some fun and try and find some different trade partners.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,000,000
2$1,400,000
3$787,500
2$787,500
2$775,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$4,750,000
2$1,500,000
2$775,000
1$775,000
Trades
1.
2.
WPG
  1. Kuznetsov, Evgeny ($1,675,000 retained)
  2. McMichael, Connor
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (WSH)
  4. 2024 4th round pick (WSH)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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Logo of the LAK
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the WSH
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the WPG
Logo of the WPG
2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$74,363,691$0$3,712,500$9,136,309
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$2,225,000$2,225,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$3,250,000$3,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$863,333$863,333
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$2,166,667$2,166,667
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$4,750,000$4,750,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$5,875,000$5,875,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$3,900,000$3,900,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$5,950,000$5,950,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$787,500$787,500
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$775,000$775,000
LW, C
RFA - 1

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Jun. 15, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.
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Let's say for the sake of argument, Hellebyuck walks and Dubois demands a trade after year 1 which he's already done with 2 different clubs. Kings give up all that for basically 2 rentals? Don't think so..
Jun. 15, 2023 at 12:27 p.m.
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Quoting: McSorley
Let's say for the sake of argument, Hellebyuck walks and Dubois demands a trade after year 1 which he's already done with 2 different clubs. Kings give up all that for basically 2 rentals? Don't think so..


That's my bad, I should have made that more clear...I made this trade under the assumption that they would be extended by LA. Although don't get me wrong...I realize my trade is most likely off value-wise.
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Jun. 15, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.
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I don't think the Kings would entertain that trade because of the uncertainty of the two staying after year 1 and because the price would be too steep.
Jun. 15, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
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That's my bad, I should have made that more clear...I made this trade under the assumption that they would be extended by LA. Although don't get me wrong...I realize my trade is most likely off value-wise.


I have no idea what would be fair tbh. A top 3 goalie, and a borderline 1C. No idea how the Kings could afford it without hurting their future.
Jun. 15, 2023 at 12:32 p.m.
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I have no idea what would be fair tbh. A top 3 goalie, and a borderline 1C. No idea how the Kings could afford it without hurting their future.


Fair enough...that's why I like LA as a target for WPG, they have so many good young roster players and prospects. Any trade would absolutely hurt LA's future.
Jun. 15, 2023 at 12:38 p.m.
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Caps pass. At his best Kuz is better than Scheifele and McMichael is more important than Stanley.
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Jun. 15, 2023 at 12:48 p.m.
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Wouldn't trade Kuzy and McMike for those two straight up
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Jun. 15, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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PLD is hard to work for LA. The current contract ask from his camp is rumoured to be ~8.9M, and the Kings can’t make that work without gutting their depth for cap space, never mind what else they potentially give up to acquire him. Even with Hellebuyck 50% retained it’d be quite the challenge for the Kings to fit that cap in and still remain competitive in the west.

I like him as a stand-alone player, don’t get it twisted, but he’s just tough to make work.
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Jun. 15, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.
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I like the Dubois trade, maybe throwing in a prospect wouldn't be a horrible idea, like the uncertainty of some of the Jets prospects especially on D could be beneficial for both teams. Even possibly Harkins who would really add grit and stability as a third/fourth line impact player.
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Jun. 15, 2023 at 2:09 p.m.
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Caps pass. At his best Kuz is better than Scheifele and McMichael is more important than Stanley.


Gonna have to disagree with you on that one....Scheifele > Kuznetsov by quite a bit but agree that maybe the other pieces aren't the right ones for either side.
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Jun. 15, 2023 at 2:12 p.m.
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Wouldn't trade Kuzy and McMike for those two straight up


Weird...I'd be jumping all over this if I were a WSH fan since their getting the superior player. Agree that the other piece might not be the best targets though.
Jun. 15, 2023 at 5:53 p.m.
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Gonna have to disagree with you on that one....Scheifele > Kuznetsov by quite a bit but agree that maybe the other pieces aren't the right ones for either side.


Not really. Schiefele is really overrated. At worst they are the same: all offense no defense. But if Kuz is on his game, which hopefully Carbery can get out of him, Kuz is better.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 9:38 a.m.
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Not really. Schiefele is really overrated. At worst they are the same: all offense no defense. But if Kuz is on his game, which hopefully Carbery can get out of him, Kuz is better.


I'm not even a huge Scheifele fan but I don't think you'll get too many people who agree Kuznetsov is better than Scheif...all you have to do is go to their hockeydb pages. Both are not strong defensively but Scheifele scores a lot more than Kuzy.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 9:52 a.m.
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I'm not even a huge Scheifele fan but I don't think you'll get too many people who agree Kuznetsov is better than Scheif...all you have to do is go to their hockeydb pages. Both are not strong defensively but Scheifele scores a lot more than Kuzy.


Agree to disagree. At best it's a sideways move for the Caps then they are giving up the better younger player and better picks while eating money. They pass.
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Jun. 16, 2023 at 9:54 a.m.
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Agree to disagree. At best it's a sideways move for the Caps then they are giving up the better younger player and better picks while eating money. They pass.


Fair point man, I agree that it is a sideways move and my trade definitely favoured the Jets here lol.
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