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Mtl get the 4th and karlsson

Created by: charlesle29em
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 16, 2023
Published: Jun. 16, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,350,000
2$850,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
smith, will
3$950,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Karlsson, Erik
  2. 2023 1st round pick (SJS)
SJS
  1. Farrell, Sean
  2. Gallagher, Brendan
  3. Harris, Jordan
  4. Kidney, Riley
  5. Mesar, Filip
  6. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  7. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
  8. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
2.
MTL
  1. Mantha, Anthony
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (WSH)
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (WSH)
3.
MTL
ARI
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (WSH)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$83,500,000$77,724,166$1,170,000$4,195,000$5,775,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,500,000$2,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
smith, will
$950,000$950,000
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,350,000$1,350,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,700,000$5,700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$850,000$850,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,850,000$3,850,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3

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Jun. 16 at 11:08 a.m.
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This is such a mess ..,
Jun. 16 at 11:09 a.m.
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Montreal ACGMs are always extra ridiculous. Montreal move up in the draft, but also they get a Norris-caliber defenseman, and lose a bad contract? Come on.
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Jun. 16 at 11:20 a.m.
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Sharks scoff at that. Another absurdist Montreal acgm. Get real.
Jun. 16 at 11:26 a.m.
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Quoting: tryger
Montreal ACGMs are always extra ridiculous. Montreal move up in the draft, but also they get a Norris-caliber defenseman, and lose a bad contract? Come on.


Just speaking to the cap dump portion, that is definitely preferable to SJ than retaining salary on Karlsson I think. It's more than half his cap hit, but its the same term and we actually get a player out of it (who knows, might improve with change of scenery). The big difference though is that the Sharks would have the power to buy Gallagher out if needed, whereas we'd lose control of that option if we were retaining on Karlsson. A buyout of the last two years of Gallagher's contract wouldn't be all that bad with the total cap spread unevenly over 6 years being comparable to having retained 50% on EK65 for the next 4. The big difference is that most of the cap comes in the first two years when the sharks don't need it.
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Jun. 16 at 11:42 a.m.
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Quoting: matthias893
Just speaking to the cap dump portion, that is definitely preferable to SJ than retaining salary on Karlsson I think. It's more than half his cap hit, but its the same term and we actually get a player out of it (who knows, might improve with change of scenery). The big difference though is that the Sharks would have the power to buy Gallagher out if needed, whereas we'd lose control of that option if we were retaining on Karlsson. A buyout of the last two years of Gallagher's contract wouldn't be all that bad with the total cap spread unevenly over 6 years being comparable to having retained 50% on EK65 for the next 4. The big difference is that most of the cap comes in the first two years when the sharks don't need it.


At age 33 why would Karlsson waive his NMC for Montreal who is in the middle of rebuilding?
Jun. 16 at 12:09 p.m.
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At age 33 why would Karlsson waive his NMC for Montreal who is in the middle of rebuilding?


He probably wouldn't, which is why I only commented on the cap dump part I thought was interesting.

The only situation where it *could* be possible is if there aren't any real contender trade options and Karlsson believes Montreal will have a significantly faster turn around than San Jose. They will almost certainly be back in the playoffs before SJ, but I kind of doubt that's enough to get Karlsson to waive.
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Jun. 16 at 12:33 p.m.
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Edmundson is not worth more than Mantha. Caps easily decline
 
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