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Fantilli

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 16, 2023
Published: Jun. 16, 2023
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Not sure about the value but I think its a nice package for the Ducks. I wouldnt do that trade as a Habs fan but it's just for fun. what do you guys think
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MTL
  1. 2023 1st round pick (ANA)
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Fantilli
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  1. Dach, Kirby
  2. Harris, Jordan
  3. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
  4. 2025 1st round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
Lane Hutson
Buyouts
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2023
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2024
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2025
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18$83,500,000$62,961,666$1,170,000$4,195,000$20,538,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 4
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
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UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 4
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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LD
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RD
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
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UFA - 2
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
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NMC
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1

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Jun. 16, 2023 at 1:59 p.m.
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Just out of curiosity, do you think there's any chance they try to swap Slafkovsky + a pick for Anaheims pick this year?
Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:00 p.m.
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Lane Hutson AND Kirby Dach!? Woah. I'd say no, I'd also imagine the Habs players wouldn't be too happy
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Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:00 p.m.
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Quoting: KiSS_My_Asthma
Just out of curiosity, do you think there's any chance they try to swap Slafkovsky + a pick for Anaheims pick this year?


Unless the "pick" is not 5th OA, no. Slaf is staying at MTL
Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:01 p.m.
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Take out Hutson and it becomes very interesting. With Hutson, its a no go
Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
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Think you're better off just nabbing Leonard and keeping all the other pieces.
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Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: KiSS_My_Asthma
Just out of curiosity, do you think there's any chance they try to swap Slafkovsky + a pick for Anaheims pick this year?


I think they will be patient with Slaf. You can see the potential, it's there... it's all about fine tuning - just remember Jack Hughes (0.344 ppg) and Lafrenière (0.375 ppg) firt seasons... similar PPG than Slaf (0.256ppg).

And contextually, Slaf had to adapt from the European ice to the NA ice and type of play.

Plus he was playing at 238lbs instead of his 218lbs... which slowed him down quite a lot.
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Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Mglgoalie33
Lane Hutson AND Kirby Dach!? Woah. I'd say no, I'd also imagine the Habs players wouldn't be too happy


Yeah I might've overkilled it when I added Hutson, just didnt want to get roasted for posting a low ball offer
Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:10 p.m.
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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin
Yeah I might've overkilled it when I added Hutson, just didnt want to get roasted for posting a low ball offer


everyone gets roasted because this is the forum where you can't make everyone happy.
it's hockey but it's also politics lol.
personally I hate the idea of moving more than 2 pieces to move up 3 picks.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:11 p.m.
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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin
Yeah I might've overkilled it when I added Hutson, just didnt want to get roasted for posting a low ball offer


No reasonable person will roast you for Dach and another 1st as the add-to 5th OA. That is already quite the package.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
everyone gets roasted because this is the forum where you can't make everyone happy.
it's hockey but it's also politics lol.
personally I hate the idea of moving more than 2 pieces to move up 3 picks.


What would you propose?
Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Caufield
No reasonable person will roast you for Dach and another 1st as the add-to 5th OA. That is already quite the package.


Lots of reactive tweeners on this site - they will roast you senseless... then turn around and offer up the worst trade the world has ever seen.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:16 p.m.
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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin
What would you propose?


I'm sure most would say it's not enough, but to move up to 2d ovr, I would offer:
1-5th Ovr
2-Harris or Xhekaj
3-Top 5 protected 2024 pick

I get that most people would say it's not enough, but I hate the idea of shipping away so much future for 1 player
Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:33 p.m.
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This idea is the opposite of what MTL should do and I hate that it keeps getting publicity. In order for ANA to consider trading that pick we have to gut our top young talent and add a couple 1sts. Why not just fold the franchise and mail it in? Fantilli is great but if we're going to have to restart the rebuild, not a chance in hell imo. I'll try trading for 3OA if the price isn't an arm, leg and 1st born child for 3 generations but it's completely useless to trade everything we have to move up a couple spots.
Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
I'm sure most would say it's not enough, but to move up to 2d ovr, I would offer:
1-5th Ovr
2-Harris or Xhekaj
3-Top 5 protected 2024 pick

I get that most people would say it's not enough, but I hate the idea of shipping away so much future for 1 player


I get your point but having Fantilli would fix our 1C problem and we wouldnt have to give the moon to a guy like PLD
Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:48 p.m.
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Anaheim isn’t trading Fantilli
Jun. 16, 2023 at 2:55 p.m.
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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin
I get your point but having Fantilli would fix our 1C problem and we wouldnt have to give the moon to a guy like PLD


Yea, I'm not convinced we need to get PLD either. I don't know...I guess I dont have the answers lol.
But if Dach can become a 1B center like suzuki, that's already pretty good IMO
Jun. 16, 2023 at 3:04 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Anaheim isn’t trading Fantilli


Quoting: Caufield
No reasonable person will roast you for Dach and another 1st as the add-to 5th OA. That is already quite the package.


I personally would take Dach+5+31 for 2OA.

I'm satisfied with Anaheims depth down the middle in three of McTavish-Zegras-Lundestrom-Gaucher. Dach fills an organizational need at RW.

Even moving Zegras to the wing could look like
Zegras-McTavish-Terry
Jones/someone-lundestrom-Dach
Comtois-Gaucher-Regenda
Jun. 16, 2023 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin
Yeah I might've overkilled it when I added Hutson, just didnt want to get roasted for posting a low ball offer


What you posted initially was not a low-ball offer, but mightn't have been exactly what Anaheim needs. Dach (who was a 3rd overall) and the #5 for Fantilli is a very fair offer. If you wanted to sweeten it, the Habs #37 pick would be more than enough. Beyond that, you're taking one step up and one step back.
 
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