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Created by: Nskelton
Team: 2023-24 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 18, 2023
Published: Jun. 18, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$880,000
3$3,700,000
1$863,000
1$912,000
4$3,200,000
3$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
1$900,000
2$1,750,000
1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
COL
  1. McLeod, Michael [RFA Rights]
  2. Sharangovich, Yegor [RFA Rights]
NJD
  1. Malgin, Denis [RFA Rights]
  2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (COL)
2.
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$82,122,500$637,500$0$1,377,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$12,600,000$12,600,000
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,200,000$3,200,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
RFA - 1
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$785,000$785,000
RW
RFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 4
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$775,000$775,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,700,000$3,700,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 6

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Jun. 18, 2023 at 2:54 a.m.
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I can't see the Devils having any interest in dealing McLeod for that, though Sharangovich does seem to be available for trade.
Also, putting McLeod as your 2C would be a complete disaster, he's a liability in any role differing from 4C.
Jun. 18, 2023 at 3:26 a.m.
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Can't see the Avs trading Newhook for anything other than an overpay but the Flyers would take it.
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Jun. 18, 2023 at 4:42 a.m.
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Ahh what? avs decline both of those trades. Best case Devils can expect a third for Sharangovich. So then the trade is malgin and a 1st for McLeod??? hard no. As for philly trade Newhook has more value then Laughton and to think the avs would add their most recent first round pick is bat **** crazy to me.
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Jun. 18, 2023 at 6:51 a.m.
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Hi!

You have piqued my interest here. How do you value Sharangovich and McLeod?

Using a draft pick value chart and isolated value i would say that this is a slight overpay in my opinion. Therefore i’m genuinely interested in your assessment.
Jun. 18, 2023 at 6:52 a.m.
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I can't see the Devils having any interest in dealing McLeod for that, though Sharangovich does seem to be available for trade.
Also, putting McLeod as your 2C would be a complete disaster, he's a liability in any role differing from 4C.


Hi!

You have piqued my interest here. How do you value Sharangovich and McLeod?

Using a draft pick value chart and isolated value i would say that this is a slight overpay in my opinion. Therefore i’m genuinely interested in your assessment
Jun. 18, 2023 at 7:42 a.m.
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Quoting: Avs21
Hi!

You have piqued my interest here. How do you value Sharangovich and McLeod?

Using a draft pick value chart and isolated value i would say that this is a slight overpay in my opinion. Therefore i’m genuinely interested in your assessment

Hey dude.
My opinion on OP's suggested Devils trade doesn't derive from a purely value based perspective, i'm also considering need, fit and unrealized upside.

I'm assuming you're going by the GSVA pick value chart so the arithmetic is fairly straightforward for Yegor alone, as a stand alone asset I'd price Sharangovich at about an early 2nd rd pick (or pick #27 = Yegor + #80). Note that I'm not valuing Yegor equivalent to his 22-23 GSVA impact of 0.6, I think his true value should be a bit higher than that.

As for McLeod, I've been one of his biggest detractors going back 3-4 years now, but since January he's been playing at levels way above normal.
McLeod also showed up in a rather massive way in the playoffs. There are signs that McLeod may carve out a niche role on this Devils team where his value to the team isn't fully captured by public analytical modeling, as such I'd very much like the Devils to hang on to McLeod for now and make him the Devils long-term 4C / PK specialist.

Furthermore, I don't perceive Malgin to have any value whatsoever for the Devils as Boqvist, Foote, Clarke and Lazar will all be fighting for 1-2 spots in the Devils bottom six, all of which ranging between having the same or way more upside than Malgin. And the 3rd rd pick in 2025 doesn't make up for the rest.

So for me it comes down to that I'd be very hesitant to give McLeod up at this point in time. I think it'd have to be a 1st rd pick equivalent of value offered for me to be happy with letting him go, which I understand is an overpay as far as the market and public modelling is concerned.
I'm not too bothered with the Devils trading Sharangovich however, as long as they get decent value for him. Though the Devils might just as well just QO him at 2.05m themselves, keep him in the team and figure out next summer what they want to do with him long-term.
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Jun. 18, 2023 at 9:19 a.m.
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Hey dude.
My opinion on OP's suggested Devils trade doesn't derive from a purely value based perspective, i'm also considering need, fit and unrealized upside.

I'm assuming you're going by the GSVA pick value chart so the arithmetic is fairly straightforward for Yegor alone, as a stand alone asset I'd price Sharangovich at about an early 2nd rd pick (or pick #27 = Yegor + #80). Note that I'm not valuing Yegor equivalent to his 22-23 GSVA impact of 0.6, I think his true value should be a bit higher than that.

As for McLeod, I've been one of his biggest detractors going back 3-4 years now, but since January he's been playing at levels way above normal.
McLeod also showed up in a rather massive way in the playoffs. There are signs that McLeod may carve out a niche role on this Devils team where his value to the team isn't fully captured by public analytical modeling, as such I'd very much like the Devils to hang on to McLeod for now and make him the Devils long-term 4C / PK specialist.

Furthermore, I don't perceive Malgin to have any value whatsoever for the Devils as Boqvist, Foote, Clarke and Lazar will all be fighting for 1-2 spots in the Devils bottom six, all of which ranging between having the same or way more upside than Malgin. And the 3rd rd pick in 2025 doesn't make up for the rest.

So for me it comes down to that I'd be very hesitant to give McLeod up at this point in time. I think it'd have to be a 1st rd pick equivalent of value offered for me to be happy with letting him go, which I understand is an overpay as far as the market and public modelling is concerned.
I'm not too bothered with the Devils trading Sharangovich however, as long as they get decent value for him. Though the Devils might just as well just QO him at 2.05m themselves, keep him in the team and figure out next summer what they want to do with him long-term.


Thank you for sharing your taught process!

I see that you’re valuing both of them very highly, and so do i therefore the interest in them. I agree with you on Sharangovich, an early-mid second round pick seems fair since NJD has no real incentive to trade him given his relatively low QO. Just as a counter point; are you afraid that his value will plummet with a disappointing season?

Fair points on McLeod and i understand that he has specific value to NJD, however as you state that makes him untouchable for other teams. So if your valuation on him is widely accepted among Devil fans he stays in Jersey.

Fair point on Malgin and the 2025 3rd. As a counter offer, what would you say about this;

To Jersey:
First round pick (27OA)
Alex Beaucage

To Colorado:
Yegor Sharangovich
Second round pick (58 OA)
Jun. 18, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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The Devils trade I'd do, the Flyers trade absolutely not. I think in any trade for McLeod it's going to be a slight overpay due to how highly he's valued in NJ. This does the job imo.
 
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