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DeBrincat Draft Night

Created by: LorneyHockey
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 19, 2023
Published: Jun. 19, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
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2$1,200,000
4$4,000,000
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3$6,000,000
1$2,500,000
2$1,000,000
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  1. 2023 1st round pick (DET)
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  1. DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]
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  1. 2023 1st round pick (NSH)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (SJS)
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  1. 2023 1st round pick (DET)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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20$83,500,000$82,912,380$0$1,850,000$587,620
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
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C
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C, LW
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
$6,000,000$6,000,000
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UFA - 4
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
C
RFA - 1
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UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
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LD
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
G
RFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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Jun. 19, 2023 at 10:38 a.m.
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Sens add stutzle to the wings trade that's how much of a no this is
Jun. 19, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 19, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.
Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Right but he got 27 last year.
That raises questions -- were those 40Gs just lucky? Did he get them because he played with Kane?

I certainly think he can fetch 30-35 with Detroit, but I'm not so sure on 40.


Not lucky but 40 G is going to be his best seasons. Not every player is always going to produce at his max potential, there is always some circumstances

Last year, these circumstances in Ottawa were :

- Ottawa has a dysfunctional coaching staff. They don't know how to instill 2-way hockey and their hockey systems are pretty basic/bad for the NHL level.
- DeBrincat and Batherson both missed Norris all season. Offense comes from quick efficient defense. Norris is a top notch 2-way center already
- Pinto did all he could but it was a bit too much to ask to babysit 2 offensive wingers in his rookie season, after missing a whole season due to injury

You put DeBrincat with Stutzle and Giroux all season and he ends up PPG (which is 16 pts from what he scored), even on that discombobulated team

DeBrincat is going to score 30+ most years.

Quoting: Lancebmx
I think Debrincat scores 35 with Detroit eventually. I think the trade, new team, new system, new city didn't help him. Plus he was playing with a rookie centre. If Norris isn't hurt how many more goals does he score?


Pierre Dorion and DJ Smith are not the best people at their job, to say the least. DeBrincat with Norris is not super smart because Norris is not a playmaker, he's a pure goal scorer. Batherson is a pretty good playmaker though, his passing is top notch, him and Norris are deadly together. But was he supposed to feed both Norris and DeBrincat at the same time? DeBrincat is good at playmaking though so he was not going to score 40 on that line. Norris would have

Before the season, I wanted :

DeBrincat - Stutzle - Giroux
Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
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Jun. 19, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.
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What is this? Ottawa gives the 9th OA to Nashville for the 15th OA and a 3rd round pick?

It costs a lot more than that to move up that high in the draft

Quoting: Tbrew
He went for 6OA (?) last year, but with a better contract situation and while putting up 40 goals.


What better contract situation? He's still RFA, but with one less RFA year. Is this what you meant?

Quoting: buffbry9108
Sens add stutzle to the wings trade that's how much of a no this is


tears of joy These childish comments are my favorite. Like if DeBrincat for a single pick was that far fetched...

I mean, he was traded for an earlier pick just one year ago, plus a 2nd and a 3rd and everyone was saying Chicago got fleeced
Jun. 19, 2023 at 12:57 p.m.
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What is this? Ottawa gives the 9th OA to Nashville for the 15th OA and a 3rd round pick?

It costs a lot more than that to move up that high in the draft



What better contract situation? He's still RFA, but with one less RFA year. Is this what you meant?



tears of joy These childish comments are my favorite. Like if DeBrincat for a single pick was that far fetched...

I mean, he was traded for an earlier pick just one year ago, plus a 2nd and a 3rd and everyone was saying Chicago got fleeced


7th last year doesn't = 9th this year, extremely different draft class

Debrincat came off a 40 goal season
Now off a 27 goal season

He had 2 years of control
Now has a 9M QO or actually arb that's only 15% less, so 1 yea of control and buying team will have to pay him 8M+ to keep him

His value isnt even close to last year, but keep prattling on like a cow
Jun. 19, 2023 at 6:02 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 19, 2023 at 6:38 p.m.
Quoting: Xspyrit
What better contract situation? He's still RFA, but with one less RFA year. Is this what you meant?


He still had the same RFA expiry status, but had a year left on his deal last year. So at worst there were two years of true team control, with one of them being at a bargain value for a 40 goal scorer
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Jun. 19, 2023 at 7:04 p.m.
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Quoting: buffbry9108
7th last year doesn't = 9th this year, extremely different draft class

Debrincat came off a 40 goal season
Now off a 27 goal season

He had 2 years of control
Now has a 9M QO or actually arb that's only 15% less, so 1 yea of control and buying team will have to pay him 8M+ to keep him

His value isnt even close to last year, but keep prattling on like a cow


Maybe 7th is not equal to the 9th this year but did you forget already about the 2nd and 3rd?

It's like you were saying that 9th OA in 2023 >>> 7th OA in 2022 + 37th OA in 2022 + 3rd

DeBrincat despite scoring less goals (played with a rookie center who is not a playmaker and had miss the whole previous season) got 66 pts, which was 12 pts less than his career high. Of course, players are not going to produce their maximum output every season
Jun. 19, 2023 at 7:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Always the same weak arguments...

Maybe 7th is not equal to the 9th this year but did you forget already about the 2nd and 3rd?

It's like you were saying that 9th OA in 2023 >>> 7th OA in 2022 + 37th OA in 2022 + 3rd

DeBrincat despite scoring less goals (played with a rookie center who is not a playmaker and had miss the whole previous season) got 66 pts, which was 12 pts less than his career high. Of course, players are not going to produce their maximum output every season


Damn you know more then every person on this website, Elliot friedman, Frank servelli and Twitter, you are that good. Surprised you aren't an NHL gm yet
Jun. 20, 2023 at 8:40 a.m.
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Quoting: buffbry9108
Damn you know more then every person on this website, Elliot friedman, Frank servelli and Twitter, you are that good. Surprised you aren't an NHL gm yet


lol what? It's not about knowing more than anybody, it's pure simple logic

7th OA in 2022 + 37th OA in 2022 + 3rd > 9th OA in 2023


UNLESS that 2023 draft was one of the best top-10 in history and the 2022 top-10 one of the worst. So if you saw any expertise on this, let it be known

If not, your logic is simply flawed, basically inexistent

The other statements are not very "knowledgeable " too, it's just simple facts.

- Pinto was really a rookie and he had miss the whole previous season (simple verifiable facts)

- 66 pts is indeed 12 less pts than 78

- "players are not going to produce their maximum output every season" seems pretty easy to determine
Jun. 20, 2023 at 9:27 a.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
lol what? It's not about knowing more than anybody, it's pure simple logic

7th OA in 2022 + 37th OA in 2022 + 3rd > 9th OA in 2023


UNLESS that 2023 draft was one of the best top-10 in history and the 2022 top-10 one of the worst. So if you saw any expertise on this, let it be known

If not, your logic is simply flawed, basically inexistent

The other statements are not very "knowledgeable " too, it's just simple facts.

- Pinto was really a rookie and he had miss the whole previous season (simple verifiable facts)

- 66 pts is indeed 12 less pts than 78

- "players are not going to produce their maximum output every season" seems pretty easy to determine


Cool the latest report is he's going to get a zadina type and some sort of future draft pick as in 24 or later and not come close to recouping what they gave from Chicago. But again you know more then these guys whose job it is to report on this stuff
Jun. 20, 2023 at 10:55 a.m.
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Quoting: buffbry9108
Cool the latest report is he's going to get a zadina type and some sort of future draft pick as in 24 or later and not come close to recouping what they gave from Chicago. But again you know more then these guys whose job it is to report on this stuff


Zadina and a pick in 2024...

Don't know where you read this crap but everyone here will tell you that you're wasting your time (and our time too)

I would barely pick up Zadina on waivers, I sure wouldn't make him as a main piece in return for a 25 y/o forward who has the 14th most goals in the NHL since his rookie season

I just read this :

"The Sens should attract plenty of enticing offers for a high-end goal scorer in his prime."

If you think Zadina and a pick in 2024 is "enticing", more power to you


And again, nothing to do with me knowing more, just having some sort of logic
 
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