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Created by: fangm
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 20, 2023
Published: Jun. 20, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$850,000
2$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$1,000,000
3$5,000,000
1$1,750,000
1$775,000
1$1,300,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Karlsson, Erik ($4,000,000 retained)
SJS
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Minten, Fraser
  3. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
  4. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
PHI
  1. 2024 5th round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (NJD)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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Logo of the TOR
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2025
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Logo of the CHI
Logo of the TOR
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$81,993,950$0$0$1,506,050

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
C
UFA - 4
$1,750,000$1,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$850,000$850,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jun. 20, 2023 at 6:25 p.m.
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That’s a huge amount of retention for two late firsts a mid tier prospect and what appears to be a decent NHL defensemen.
Jun. 20, 2023 at 6:26 p.m.
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Seems like a really great way to repeat the whole Rielly-Barrie issue where they cannibalize eachother, and to top it all off we are paying EVEN MORE to do it this time.
TL;DR I don't think Karlsson makes sense on the Leafs, and frankly I wouldn't even take him for free on any team with his contract - let alone massive payments like you have here.
Jun. 20, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.
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Thats fair for about 2 mil retained but 4? Dream on.
Jun. 20, 2023 at 7:10 p.m.
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Seeler will be worth a 3rd, at worst a 4th at the deadline so the Flyers pass.
Jun. 20, 2023 at 8:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Brian_O_Blivion
Thats fair for about 2 mil retained but 4? Dream on.


Quoting: mmccRed198913
That’s a huge amount of retention for two late firsts a mid tier prospect and what appears to be a decent NHL defensemen.


Quoting: Random2152
Seems like a really great way to repeat the whole Rielly-Barrie issue where they cannibalize eachother, and to top it all off we are paying EVEN MORE to do it this time.
TL;DR I don't think Karlsson makes sense on the Leafs, and frankly I wouldn't even take him for free on any team with his contract - let alone massive payments like you have here.


I think he's essentially worthless with his contract and the payment is all for the retention.
Jun. 20, 2023 at 8:28 p.m.
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Quoting: fangm
I think he's essentially worthless with his contract and the payment is all for the retention.


He isnt worth this with the retention, and again the more pressing issue is the cannibalism
Jun. 20, 2023 at 8:54 p.m.
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Quoting: Random2152
He isnt worth this with the retention, and again the more pressing issue is the cannibalism


I don't see it as an issue. The problem with Barrie was that Babcock was forcing him to play as a Defensive D.

Later in the season when Babcock was fired Barrie and Rielly were fine together on different pairs.

I also think as both Karlsson and Rielly age it's better for them to not need to play 25 minutes every night and carry the team.
Jun. 20, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.
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I don't see it as an issue. The problem with Barrie was that Babcock was forcing him to play as a Defensive D.

Later in the season when Babcock was fired Barrie and Rielly were fine together on different pairs


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