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Created by: Sjohns8888
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 26, 2023
Published: Jun. 26, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,500,000
2$875,000
2$875,000
2$875,000
2$875,000
2$875,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,700,000
2$1,500,000
1$900,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
1$2,500,000
4$4,500,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Hall, Taylor ($3,000,000 retained)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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Logo of the CHI
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$82,122,283$0$0$1,377,717
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 1
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$875,000$875,000
C, LW
RFA - 2

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Jun. 26, 2023 at 5:03 p.m.
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Hawks decline. Hall w/ 50% retention is probably worth the Boston 1st. Hawks don't take on Murray for Lilypad and Robertson.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 5:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
Hawks decline. Hall w/ 50% retention is probably worth the Boston 1st. Hawks don't take on Murray for Lilypad and Robertson.


IDK. It's a tough one. I feel like I would do this. Robertson is indeed injury prone. It's a true factor. Timmy was playing well and we just sent our only 2 (legit) RHD Propsects to BOS....sans Rinzel. I mean guys in Rockford.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 5:18 p.m.
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IDK. It's a tough one. I feel like I would do this. Robertson is indeed injury prone. It's a true factor. Timmy was playing well and we just sent our only 2 (legit) RHD Propsects to BOS....sans Rinzel. I mean guys in Rockford.


Robertson has little to no trade value until he shows he can stay healthy for a while season. Lilypad is a 3rd pair guy for Hawks at least until Murphy leaves. I'm not taking Murray for a 3rd pair D man. Even if you don't think Hall 50% retained is worth #28, the residual from what he is worth still isn't enough to take Murray in my opinion.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 5:22 p.m.
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Robertson has little to no trade value until he shows he can stay healthy for a while season. Lilypad is a 3rd pair guy for Hawks at least until Murphy leaves. I'm not taking Murray for a 3rd pair D man. Even if you don't think Hall 50% retained is worth #28, the residual from what he is worth still isn't enough to take Murray in my opinion.


That's fair. I look at it a bit differently. Zaitsev isn't an NHLer. I don't want to be tanking just for the sake of tanking, so I'm trying to limit his ice time. Timmy probably is going to be a 3rd pair Dman, BUT he's 24...costs $1.4M and Arb eligible. I think we can extend him on a medium term deal for a low AAV and really start to build things. Especially if a teams willing to pay for Muphy down the line too. I just think it gives us more options and Murray will be off the books next year anyway. Pick #28 straight up is pretty decent this year too.
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 5:29 p.m.
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That's fair. I look at it a bit differently. Zaitsev isn't an NHLer. I don't want to be tanking just for the sake of tanking, so I'm trying to limit his ice time. Timmy probably is going to be a 3rd pair Dman, BUT he's 24...costs $1.4M and Arb eligible. I think we can extend him on a medium term deal for a low AAV and really start to build things. Especially if a teams willing to pay for Muphy down the line too. I just think it gives us more options and Murray will be off the books next year anyway. Pick #28 straight up is pretty decent this year too.


Also fair. I think we just disagree on Lilypad's value. I'm not as high on him as you seem to be. Which is fine! Your opinions on here are always pretty solid.
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 7:16 p.m.
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Murrays contract doesn’t affect Chicago at all. They can either buy him out (400k this year and 2 mil next year against the cap) or play him this year and hope he’s a tradeable asset at the deadline or draft next year. Also, helps them get to the cap floor.

Hall 50% for 28th and murrays contract for liljegren and Robertson is pretty much what I was thinking in the deal. Could easily swap Robertson for a different prospect. I think Robertson is more slotted for a top six role which he would probably get with the hawks. I agree he doesn’t have a ton of value right now. Could be a great buy low candidate tho.
 
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