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Balancing risk and efficiency

Created by: SupremeBone
Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 26, 2023
Published: Jun. 26, 2023
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Ceci to ANA seems serves a purpose for both clubs

EDM adds a lower-ceiling guy of similar age that's under contract while CHI adds a genuinely top bloke with physicality and the tools to thrive with the team's youth movement (would rather keep him, but apparently his ask is too high for EDM)

Yamo for Ruhwedel opens space for Brown and adds a veteran depth RD to support the bottom-pairing

The trade down continues a pattern of restocking the cupboards with picks in a quality draft

RFAs are signed under the assumption that their team may not re-sign/qualify them (STL has Faulk, Parayko, Kessel, and Bortuzzo as rostered RD; LA has a wealth of young Fs/Cs ahead of Madden)

Biggest risk here is leaving the spot in the top-4 for Broberg. While it's definitely a risky move, the team needs to find out what they have in him this season and giving him a genuine shot at the top-4 has the potential to be a REAL cap efficiency. If he isn't up to the task, then Kulak takes over in the interim and the main deadline target becomes a top-4 RD.

If Toews decides he wants to chase another Cup, I could easily swap out Janmark for him and run a 4th line of Holloway-Toews-Entwistle which would just be *chef's kiss*.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$775,000
2$775,000
2$3,250,000
2$775,000
2$775,000
3$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,250,000
1$2,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
C Brown, Bonuses
1$2,000,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Madden, Tyler$775,000No Compensation
Lyle, Brady$775,000No Compensation
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. 2023 4th round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Ceci, Cody
2.
EDM
  1. Entwistle, Mackenzie
CHI
  1. Kostin, Klim [RFA Rights]
3.
EDM
  1. Ruhwedel, Chad
  2. 2023 5th round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Yamamoto, Kailer
4.
EDM
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (WSH)
ARI
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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Logo of the NSH
2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$82,192,500$850,000$1,500,000$1,307,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Kane, Evander
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
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McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Hyman, Zach
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 6
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Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Brown, Connor
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Foegele, Warren
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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McLeod, Ryan
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
RFA - 2
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Ryan, Derek
$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Janmark, Mattias
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Holloway, Dylan
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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Entwistle, Mackenzie
$800,000$800,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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Lavoie, Raphael
$775,000$775,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Nurse, Darnell
$9,250,000$9,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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Bouchard, Evan
$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
RFA - 2
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Campbell, Jack
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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Ekholm, Mattias
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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Broberg, Philip
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 1
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Skinner, Stuart
$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 3
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Kulak, Brett
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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Ruhwedel, Chad
$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Desharnais, Vincent
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
C Brown, Bonuses
$2,000,000$2,000,000

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Jun. 26, 2023 at 5:40 p.m.
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why are the penguins giving EDM a 5th for an EDM cap dump?
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 5:41 p.m.
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Pens Pass. Not going to give up assets for an EDM cap dump. You'd have to sweeten that offer
Jun. 26, 2023 at 5:56 p.m.
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Pens decline. Yamamoto’s a tweener, not consistently good enough to be top six, ineffectual as a bottom six. No interest.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:00 p.m.
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I take the Ceci deal just fine, the question I have for Edmonton is does freeing up his cap space really do that much for you? Can you get Bouch to take that deal?
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:03 p.m.
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Why do people think Yamamoto a cap dump that requires a sweetener? He's a young, 20-goal scorer who is defensively responsible who has 1 year left on his deal them is an RFA. He had a down season due to battling concussion-like symptoms all year, if he's healthy he's well worth his salary. Edmonton won't get a big return for him due to their cap situation, but they won't have to attach an asset to him to move him.
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:04 p.m.
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Pens decline. Yamamoto’s a tweener, not consistently good enough to be top six, ineffectual as a bottom six. No interest.


He got moved down to the bottom-6 in the playoffs and was VERY effective. You should formulate your opinions on actual knowledge.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:04 p.m.
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I take the Ceci deal just fine, the question I have for Edmonton is does freeing up his cap space really do that much for you? Can you get Bouch to take that deal?

Personally, I think so. Holland seems to think both Bouch and McLeod's deals will be short term and, given Dobson's cap hit for his 3 yr deal after a better season, I think 3.25mil is within the realm of reason on a 2 year deal. Maybe add an extra 500k or something but that's why I left cap space.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:06 p.m.
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Why do people think Yamamoto a cap dump that requires a sweetener? He's a young, 20-goal scorer who is defensively responsible who has 1 year left on his deal them is an RFA. He had a down season due to battling concussion-like symptoms all year, if he's healthy he's well worth his salary. Edmonton won't get a big return for him due to their cap situation, but they won't have to attach an asset to him to move him.


He won't be coming to PGH. He scored 20 goals once.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:08 p.m.
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He got moved down to the bottom-6 in the playoffs and was VERY effective. You should formulate your opinions on actual knowledge.

I agree with your other post regarding his value, but this just isn't true. The majority of his ice time in the playoffs was with either Drai or RNH as his C and none of his numbers suggest he was particularly effective. I don't disagree that he could be effective in a bottom-6, but he most certainly wasn't that in the playoffs.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:09 p.m.
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Why do people think Yamamoto a cap dump that requires a sweetener? He's a young, 20-goal scorer who is defensively responsible who has 1 year left on his deal them is an RFA. He had a down season due to battling concussion-like symptoms all year, if he's healthy he's well worth his salary. Edmonton won't get a big return for him due to their cap situation, but they won't have to attach an asset to him to move him.


He scored 20 goals one season.... if he is all of those things you claim him to be then why trade him as it seems like someone the oilers need if they're trying to contend and win a cup??

He's a cap dump, every oilers fan on this website have been treating him as thus.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:12 p.m.
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why are the penguins giving EDM a 5th for an EDM cap dump?

Because I don't agree with the characterisation of him as a cap dump. The 5th and even Ruhwedel are largely inconsequential to the roster so it's fine if it's not PIT; send him to CHI or COL for free or buy him out and sign Stone or similar. I merely saw the idea posited by a Pens fan at some point and figured it was sufficiently worthy of consideration.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:13 p.m.
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Why do people think Yamamoto a cap dump that requires a sweetener? He's a young, 20-goal scorer who is defensively responsible who has 1 year left on his deal them is an RFA. He had a down season due to battling concussion-like symptoms all year, if he's healthy he's well worth his salary. Edmonton won't get a big return for him due to their cap situation, but they won't have to attach an asset to him to move him.

He scored 20 goals one season.... if he is all of those things you claim him to be then why trade him as it seems like someone the oilers need if they're trying to contend and win a cup??

He's a cap dump, every oilers fan on this website have been treating him as thus.

Do you believe there's a difference between a "cap dump" and a "cap casualty"? Because that's the distinction that I think is relevant here. Oilers fans are mostly treating him as the latter.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:13 p.m.
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He got moved down to the bottom-6 in the playoffs and was VERY effective. You should formulate your opinions on actual knowledge.


Delusional, lol.
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:19 p.m.
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Why do people think Yamamoto a cap dump that requires a sweetener? He's a young, 20-goal scorer who is defensively responsible who has 1 year left on his deal them is an RFA. He had a down season due to battling concussion-like symptoms all year, if he's healthy he's well worth his salary. Edmonton won't get a big return for him due to their cap situation, but they won't have to attach an asset to him to move him.

He scored 20 goals one season.... if he is all of those things you claim him to be then why trade him as it seems like someone the oilers need if they're trying to contend and win a cup??

He's a cap dump, every oilers fan on this website have been treating him as thus.
Do you believe there's a difference between a "cap dump" and a "cap casualty"? Because that's the distinction that I think is relevant here. Oilers fans are mostly treating him as the latter.


I do, and a 1st rounder that's broken 30 points once and is making $3.1M on a team as good as the oilers is a cap dump, not a cap casualty. If LA moves someone like Arvidsson for PLD, I'd call that a cap casualty. Yamamoto is not a casualty, he's underperformed, Holland choose to spend 3.1M on him and it hasn't worked, injury or not. It's a dump.
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:19 p.m.
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I agree with your other post regarding his value, but this just isn't true. The majority of his ice time in the playoffs was with either Drai or RNH as his C and none of his numbers suggest he was particularly effective. I don't disagree that he could be effective in a bottom-6, but he most certainly wasn't that in the playoffs.

I recall him and McLeod being very effective together on occasion v LA.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:27 p.m.
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I do, and a 1st rounder that's broken 30 points once and is making $3.1M on a team as good as the oilers is a cap dump, not a cap casualty. If LA moves someone like Arvidsson for PLD, I'd call that a cap casualty. Yamamoto is not a casualty, he's underperformed, Holland choose to spend 3.1M on him and it hasn't worked, injury or not. It's a dump.

Fair. I think Yamo falls into the casualty category as I don't view him as some empty passenger to his production, but I can understand why others might view him that way. 3 seasons of being on-pace for 33-35 non-PP points suggests a material offensive player which, alongside the fact that he kills penalties and works like the dickens, suggests to me a player that at least shouldn't cost to move on from. No harm in a disagreement, though!
Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:28 p.m.
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I recall him and McLeod being very effective together on occasion v LA.

They played 18 mins together and were 1-1 GF while being quite thoroughly outchanced (tiny sample size n all that).
Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:35 p.m.
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They played 18 mins together and were 1-1 GF while being quite thoroughly outchanced (tiny sample size n all that).


They were 7-4 scoring chances and 3-1 high danger chances v LA. That's not terrible.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 6:49 p.m.
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Hawks probably accept.
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