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According To Arpon

Created by: jonh514
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 26, 2023
Published: Jun. 26, 2023
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Arpon mentioned on his podcast that he's tracking an Alex Newhook to MTL deal for a defenseman. This got me thinking: Could the Habs flip Newhook in a Dubois deal?
Free Agent Signings
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4$3,500,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Newhook, Alex [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Habs get Newhook to flip him to Winnipeg
COL
  1. Dvorak, Christian ($2,225,000 retained)
  2. Xhekaj, Arber
Additional Details:
Colorado cut ties with Newhook and get cost controlled Center for their 3C position and a young defender who can help them in the playoffs
2.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Gurianov, Denis [RFA Rights]
  2. Newhook, Alex
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
Young center in Newhook that could use a chance in a top 6 role (he would come unsigned. I signed him because capfriendly has a defect on 3 way trades)
Gurianov has a lot of tools, but has not been able to put them together consistently, still an affordable player with an interesting size/skill package
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2023
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2024
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2025
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19$83,500,000$66,655,833$1,170,000$4,210,000$16,844,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,985,000$1,985,000 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2

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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.
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They'd probably pay more assets for Newhook over PLD, honestly.

Arpon also said they are highly likely not taking Michkov which is not at all fun. Reinbacher or Leonard seem like the choices. That means Harris/Xhekaj are probably on the block.
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
They'd probably pay more assets for Newhook over PLD, honestly.

Arpon also said they are highly likely not taking Michkov which is not at all fun.


Why more for Newhook?
Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.
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Why more for Newhook?


If he didnt mention he wanted to go to Montreal. Hughes would have had zero motivation to make a push without the PLD hype. And, Arpon also said they never seriously had a legit offer down. Beck was never in the trade discussions.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:23 p.m.
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Why would COL even consider that?
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:24 p.m.
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Why would COL even consider that?


Cause a Montreal beat writer said so?
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:27 p.m.
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Cause a Montreal beat writer said so?


And nobody in COL has said anything, not that they do ever. Newhook is cost controlled for longer than Dvorak is under contract and Xehekaj is entertaining but is he a really a transition guy no.
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:28 p.m.
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I don't think this competes with the Kings offer, and I don't see the Avs having interest in the first part of the offer. I would imagine the defenseman is more in the tier that Newhook is. Probably Harris or Barron.
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Xqb15a
And nobody in COL has said anything, not that they do ever. Newhook is cost controlled for longer than Dvorak is under contract and Xehekaj is entertaining but is he a really a transition guy no.


I was appealing to your sense of humour, but apparently I came up short!
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:29 p.m.
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I don't think this competes with the Kings offer, and I don't see the Avs having interest in the first part of the offer. I would imagine the defenseman is more in the tier that Newhook is. Probably Harris.


I value Xhekaj higher than Harris, so sure!
Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Xqb15a
And nobody in COL has said anything, not that they do ever. Newhook is cost controlled for longer than Dvorak is under contract and Xehekaj is entertaining but is he a really a transition guy no.


I haven't fallen for the Xhe hype much. Cool story has made people inflate his game. In reality he's a physical third pairing guy with nothing super great for upside. Plays with an edge but also doesn't have good discipline or defensive metrics. Kinda like how Romanov was overhyped, then fell into his proper role on the Isles.
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:30 p.m.
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Quoting: jonh514
Cause a Montreal beat writer said so?


Seems quite unwise from Colorado's perspective. Newhook has potential to be a cost effective 2C or 3C depending on how Johansen is. COL is quite stacked defensively too so adding a 3RD isn't really worth it IMO.
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:32 p.m.
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I haven't fallen for the Xhe hype much. Cool story has made people inflate his game. In reality he's a physical third pairing guy with nothing super great for upside. Plays with an edge but also doesn't have good discipline or defensive metrics. Kinda like how Romanov was overhyped, then fell into his proper role on the Isles.


I'll swap for Harris if you prefer.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:34 p.m.
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I'll swap for Harris if you prefer.


I mean in my personal preference it's a pair of lopsided trades in favor of the Habs, but I'm approaching this from the goal of your post by following the beat writer post. I would imagine that, in the rare case that COL actually is entertaining something, they'd want Barron back or someone like Harris (who each have higher ceilings, while bringing a measure of talent now) than someone who will forever be behind the top 4 in their system.
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:39 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:49 p.m.
Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
They'd probably pay more assets for Newhook over PLD, honestly.

Arpon also said they are highly likely not taking Michkov which is not at all fun. Reinbacher or Leonard seem like the choices. That means Harris/Xhekaj are probably on the block.


Trading either of them for a middle 6 center would be a mistake. I'd shop Struble + but moving either Harris or Arber now would be selling too low.
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:40 p.m.
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I mean in my personal preference it's a pair of lopsided trades in favor of the Habs, but I'm approaching this from the goal of your post by following the beat writer post. I would imagine that, in the rare case that COL actually is entertaining something, they'd want Barron back or someone like Harris (who each have higher ceilings, while bringing a measure of talent now) than someone who will forever be behind the top 4 in their system.


Thanks! I doubt either team goes for a Barron trade. Teams don't often retread.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:41 p.m.
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I'll swap for Harris if you prefer.


Your humble pie thread got deleted yesterday with those trolls gloating, eh? That was some baiting lmao i wish the thread was still up. PLD deal not even close to being done to LAK. I cant believe those tools trusted Fraudgnotta when it comes to anything being finalized. Dont say i didnt warn people yesterday.

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Your humble pie thread got deleted yesterday with those trolls gloating, eh? That was some baiting lmao i wish the thread was still up. PLD deal not even close to done to LAK



I tried another one and got sanctioned again. It was sad!
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:46 p.m.
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I tried another one and got sanctioned again. It was sad!


Like I said.. Chill. LAK still make zero sense and they havent even talked to PLD about a contract according to the legit insiders like Lebrun, Seravalli.
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What a surprise.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 8:48 p.m.
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Like I said.. Chill. LAK still make zero sense and they havent even talked to PLD about a contract according to the legit insiders like Lebrun, Seravelli.


Exactly. Doesn't matter what the teams decide in a trade. He still needs to sign a deal which make the trade worth it to the Kings.
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Jun. 26, 2023 at 9:03 p.m.
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So a Montreal beat reporter poses deals where Montreal gives up almost nothing of value yet ends up with the most valuable piece.

Sounds about right. You can see where Montreal fans come up with the ideas for their lopsided ACGM's.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.
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So a Montreal beat reporter poses deals where Montreal gives up almost nothing of value yet ends up with the most valuable piece.

Sounds about right. You can see where Montreal fans come up with the ideas for their lopsided ACGM's.


You are not interested in Newhook?
Jun. 26, 2023 at 9:35 p.m.
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You are not interested in Newhook?


Not particularly for PLD. In a Scheifele deal he would be okay though.
Jun. 26, 2023 at 10:05 p.m.
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So a Montreal beat reporter poses deals where Montreal gives up almost nothing of value yet ends up with the most valuable piece.

Sounds about right. You can see where Montreal fans come up with the ideas for their lopsided ACGM's.


So Do an ACGM. All you do is talk ishh. Judge with no clout or courage.
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