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Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 28, 2023
Published: Jun. 28, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$975,000
2$1,350,000
3$3,250,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Carlson, Leo
3$925,000
Trades
1.
CGY
    2023 1st (27th Overall)
    COL
    1. Backlund, Mikael ($2,350,000 retained)
    2.
    CGY
    1. Johnson, Kent
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    2023 1st (3rd Overall)
    CBJ
    1. Lindholm, Elias
    Additional Details:
    2023 1st (16th Overall)
    2023 1st (27th Overall)
    3.
    4.
    5.
    CGY
    1. 2024 3rd round pick (DET)
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    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2024
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    2025
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    2026
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    20$83,500,000$69,213,333$0$2,715,000$14,286,667
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    LW, RW
    NMC
    UFA - 8
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
    LW, C
    RFA - 1
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $3,100,000$3,100,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    $7,000,000$7,000,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2
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    $2,300,000$2,300,000
    LW, RW, C
    RFA - 1
    Carlson, Leo
    $925,000$925,000
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RW
    RFA - 2
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    $825,000$825,000
    RW
    UFA - 2
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    $975,000$975,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
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    $4,900,000$4,900,000
    RW, LW
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $6,250,000$6,250,000
    LD/RD
    NTC
    UFA - 8
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    $4,550,000$4,550,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
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    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 3
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    $2,500,000$2,500,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
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    $1,125,000$1,125,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
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    $813,333$813,333 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
    G
    RFA - 1
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Calgary Flames
    $1,350,000$1,350,000
    RD
    UFA - 1

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    Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:20 p.m.
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    Philly is rebuilding and have no interest in either one of those players
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:21 p.m.
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    Detroit gave up a 3rd for Ned 2 years ago coming off a Rookie of the Year nomination, and then last year for Husso coming off a strong season with St. Louis. A 3rd for Vladar is an overpayment.
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:22 p.m.
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    Worst cbj trade for lindholm yet. By far.

    Wouldn’t move either of those assets for your entire package.
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    Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:23 p.m.
    #4
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    Evolution of Flames fans making Lindholm to Columbus proposals

    Lindholm + Calgary 2023 2nd for 3 OA <--- 1 month ago in the stupid athletic article
    Lindholm for 3 OA
    Lindholm for 3 OA + CBJ 3rd
    Lindholm for 3 OA + Peeke
    Lindholm for 3 OA + Sillinger
    Lindholm for 3 OA + Johnson <--- We are now here
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    Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.
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    Somehow the worst lindholm to the jackets trade I’ve seen yet and that’s saying a lot
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    Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: dk325
    Evolution of Flames fans making Lindholm to Columbus proposals

    Lindholm + Calgary 2023 2nd for 3 OA <--- 1 month ago in the stupid athletic article
    Lindholm for 3 OA
    Lindholm for 3 OA + CBJ 3rd
    Lindholm for 3 OA + Peeke
    Lindholm for 3 OA + Sillinger
    Lindholm for 3 OA + Johnson <--- We are now here


    At least this one also has Calgary's two 2023 firsts going back with Lindholm. It's still a bad deal, but at least there's that.
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    Jun. 28, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: SK101
    Somehow the worst lindholm to the jackets trade I’ve seen yet and that’s saying a lot


    Guess you mainly watch the Eastern Conference and perhaps basketball then eh? Lindholm is a top 20 centre in the league and two firsts in a deep draft is great value
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:03 p.m.
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    Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
    Guess you mainly watch the Eastern Conference and perhaps basketball then eh? Lindholm is a top 20 centre in the league and two firsts in a deep draft is great value


    And that still doesn't get you 3OA and Kent Johnson. Our geography has nothing to do with that value disparity.
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 4:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: squashmaple
    And that still doesn't get you 3OA and Kent Johnson. Our geography has nothing to do with that value disparity.


    No, your geography means you know nothing about our players because you never get to watch them. In the West, we can see all games without staying up to 2am
    Jun. 28, 2023 at 5:32 p.m.
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    No, your geography means you know nothing about our players because you never get to watch them. In the West, we can see all games without staying up to 2am


    Take a look at my second favorite team and tell me I don't watch Western Conference games. Elias Lindholm is a good two-way center who has scored at a ppg exactly once in his career, in a year he played between two of the best wings in the league. This past year--missing both of them--his numbers went back to his career numbers. Which are good but unspectacular. He is not a top 20 center in the league. If he was, no one would be arguing much that that his trade value is close to a rebuilding team's top prospect (which is guaranteed to be a better prospect than a team that finished around where Calgary did) AND a top five pick.
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    Jun. 30, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.
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    Quoting: squashmaple
    Take a look at my second favorite team and tell me I don't watch Western Conference games. Elias Lindholm is a good two-way center who has scored at a ppg exactly once in his career, in a year he played between two of the best wings in the league. This past year--missing both of them--his numbers went back to his career numbers. Which are good but unspectacular. He is not a top 20 center in the league. If he was, no one would be arguing much that that his trade value is close to a rebuilding team's top prospect (which is guaranteed to be a better prospect than a team that finished around where Calgary did) AND a top five pick.


    Agree to disagree. Name over 20 centres better than Lindholm for defensive play, PK, working hard, playmaking, and scoring
    Jun. 30, 2023 at 4:29 p.m.
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    Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
    Agree to disagree. Name over 20 centres better than Lindholm for defensive play, PK, working hard, playmaking, and scoring


    Boy, those goalposts moved in a hurry from "top 20 center in the league" to "top 20 center for defensive play, PK, working hard, playmaking, and scoring"
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    Jun. 30, 2023 at 5:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
    Agree to disagree. Name over 20 centres better than Lindholm for defensive play, PK, working hard, playmaking, and scoring


    Okay... so you want a list of centers like Cirelli and JT Compher, then? I thought we were talking about the top centers, period. That is a very different conversation, and I am fully in agreement with you that he's good at that. But that's not what we were talking about, and also he's still not in the top 20. Backlund is, though!
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    Jul. 1, 2023 at 1:47 a.m.
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    Boy, those goalposts moved in a hurry from "top 20 center in the league" to "top 20 center for defensive play, PK, working hard, playmaking, and scoring"


    Those are the same lol
    Jul. 1, 2023 at 1:48 a.m.
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    Okay... so you want a list of centers like Cirelli and JT Compher, then? I thought we were talking about the top centers, period. That is a very different conversation, and I am fully in agreement with you that he's good at that. But that's not what we were talking about, and also he's still not in the top 20. Backlund is, though!


    Top Centres period, offensive and defensive…Lindholm is that already, Johnson might be in several years so fair trade! Case closed!
     
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