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Created by: Nskelton
Team: 2023-24 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 2, 2023
Published: Jul. 2, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$3,500,000
1$880,000
1$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
2$1,000,000
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2024
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$82,587,500$637,500$0$912,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$825,000$825,000
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$12,600,000$12,600,000
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 6
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$4,300,000$4,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
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$3,850,000$3,850,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
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UFA - 6

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Jul. 2, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.
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Arizona seems to be trying this year, so I doubt they do this
Jul. 2, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Arizona seems to be trying this year, so I doubt they do this


Who is their best Dman? If they're really trying Girard could help immensely.
Jul. 2, 2023 at 12:47 p.m.
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Why are you hell bent on trading Girard and get an awful return for him. Newhook just netted them a 1st 2nd and prospect and Girard is worth so much more. COL fans just thinking a cost controlled top 4 24yr old dman for the next 4 years is something you just trade for somebody hilariously overrated in Crouse is so bad. It took Crouse getting 18 minutes a night and PP1 time to get him to 40 pts, but yeah he is big.
Jul. 2, 2023 at 1:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Xqb15a
Why are you hell bent on trading Girard and get an awful return for him. Newhook just netted them a 1st 2nd and prospect and Girard is worth so much more. COL fans just thinking a cost controlled top 4 24yr old dman for the next 4 years is something you just trade for somebody hilariously overrated in Crouse is so bad. It took Crouse getting 18 minutes a night and PP1 time to get him to 40 pts, but yeah he is big.


I don't think we're moving Manson to the 6D, and Girard as the 3LD making 5m seems like the wrong place.

Do you know of another cost controlled winger?
Jul. 2, 2023 at 4:06 p.m.
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I don't think we're moving Manson to the 6D, and Girard as the 3LD making 5m seems like the wrong place.

Do you know of another cost controlled winger?


Dude the Avs play mix and match on d, Girard is playing top 4 minutes 20+ per game Manson is the the #5dman meaning 3rd pairing you are far to hung up on playing left and right. Top 4 dmen are so valuable it isn’t funny and more so those that can play in transition move the puck and are cost controlled long term. FLA gave up a 1st and 3rd for a rental traffic cone in Chiarot and VAN gave up a 1st and 2nd for just over a season of Hronek. Winger is the easiest position to fill and Crouse is crazy overrated simply because he is big. Throw in you have no idea what a Toews extension looks like or can happen and Byram is due another extension in 2 years the same as Rantanen Girard’s value is exceptionally high regardless what the talking heads on CF say because he is locked up for his peak years on a deal that is only going to get better and better as the cap goes up, just look at what the d market is this year with a guy like Holl getting $3.4M and isn’t remotely close to the value of Girard.
Jul. 2, 2023 at 4:24 p.m.
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Dude the Avs play mix and match on d, Girard is playing top 4 minutes 20+ per game Manson is the the #5dman meaning 3rd pairing you are far to hung up on playing left and right. Top 4 dmen are so valuable it isn’t funny and more so those that can play in transition move the puck and are cost controlled long term. FLA gave up a 1st and 3rd for a rental traffic cone in Chiarot and VAN gave up a 1st and 2nd for just over a season of Hronek. Winger is the easiest position to fill and Crouse is crazy overrated simply because he is big. Throw in you have no idea what a Toews extension looks like or can happen and Byram is due another extension in 2 years the same as Rantanen Girard’s value is exceptionally high regardless what the talking heads on CF say because he is locked up for his peak years on a deal that is only going to get better and better as the cap goes up, just look at what the d market is this year with a guy like Holl getting $3.4M and isn’t remotely close to the value of Girard.


So what you're saying is Girard should easily get us Drake Batherson
Jul. 2, 2023 at 7:26 p.m.
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So what you're saying is Girard should easily get us Drake Batherson


C’mon man look at the team OTT’s top 4 is set and they are trading DeBrincat, Crouse is a fraction of the player as Batherson at near the same cap hit and is a true top 6 forward. You’ve made multiple trades undervaluing Girard but outside of elite talent like McDavid and MacK you have to look at both sides what each team needs is Girard for a cost controlled winger to a team that needs a top 4 puck moving dman a fair deal yes. For Crouse a guy with 1 40pt season who needed top 6 minutes and PP1 time to do it no thanks.
Jul. 2, 2023 at 8:52 p.m.
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C’mon man look at the team OTT’s top 4 is set and they are trading DeBrincat, Crouse is a fraction of the player as Batherson at near the same cap hit and is a true top 6 forward. You’ve made multiple trades undervaluing Girard but outside of elite talent like McDavid and MacK you have to look at both sides what each team needs is Girard for a cost controlled winger to a team that needs a top 4 puck moving dman a fair deal yes. For Crouse a guy with 1 40pt season who needed top 6 minutes and PP1 time to do it no thanks.


I know it's all moot anyway seeing that we won't be able to retain Toews, so we'll need Girard to be the #3 next season anyway.
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Jul. 3, 2023 at 10:44 a.m.
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I know it's all moot anyway seeing that we won't be able to retain Toews, so we'll need Girard to be the #3 next season anyway.


I don’t know about that if he wants $8M yeah he’s gone, if he is willing to take something in the high 6’s it’s possible depending on how much the cap goes up. The one thing with any COL d trade is the mentality of the FO, when Sakic came in the first few years their d corp was straight awful like abomination bad and he has made it a pointed effort to make the dcorp deep and good. Good discussion!
 
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