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Avalanche 24-25 w Toews extension

Created by: bcooke
Team: 2024-25 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 14, 2023
Published: Jul. 14, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
1$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,600,000
1$1,050,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,500,000
8$7,000,000
1$850,000
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Peeke, Andrew
Additional Details:
Trade at '23 TDL
CBJ
  1. Beaucage, Alex [RFA Rights]
  2. 2024 4th round pick (COL)
  3. 2025 6th round pick (COL)
2.
COL
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (PIT)
  2. 2026 6th round pick (ANA)
Additional Details:
Somewhere in the West that isn't on Manson's 12 team NTC
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$87,700,000$87,670,000$0$80,000$30,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$12,600,000$12,600,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$6,125,000$6,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,600,000$3,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$925,000$925,000
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$870,000$870,000 (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,050,000$1,050,000
LW, C
UFA
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD
UFA - 7
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$3,850,000$3,850,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$850,000$850,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 3
Taxi Squad
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
RFA - 3

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Jul. 14, 2023 at 4:56 p.m.
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i personally think it makes sense to go 8 years to get that cap hit down as low as possible. when it's half way through the majority of our players will be starting to regress anyways. we gotta win while we can over the next 4/5 years before every one is 33 and older
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Jul. 14, 2023 at 5:21 p.m.
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Don't think Peeke is gonna be traded for scraps considering hes a semi-cheap shot blocking RHD that just started an extension. Would be a perfect 3rd pairing for a contender like Colorado. If we retain him like how Nashville did Ekholm he could fetch a minimum 2nd, or maybe a 1st since GMs love their big RHD
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Jul. 14, 2023 at 5:37 p.m.
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Yeah don’t see CBJ doing that, could see ANA doing that, does mean Mikko, Byram and Georgiev are all due extension at the same time.
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Jul. 14, 2023 at 5:43 p.m.
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A 50 point, elite two way defenceman that will be entering free agency as the cap begins to rise significantly will get a heck of a lot more than $7M… you’re likely looking at $8.5M at minimum. Remember that Seth Jones is getting $9.5M so unless Toews is willing to take a discount, you’re not getting him that cheap.
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Jul. 14, 2023 at 7:05 p.m.
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This just strengthens the point that extending Toews just doesn’t work, just look at all the things that need to go COLs way here.

Big cap increase
Trade Manson
3 ELCs in the lineup
No cap space with only 21 on the roster

Just doesn’t work
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Jul. 14, 2023 at 8:00 p.m.
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Quoting: McRanteskog
This just strengthens the point that extending Toews just doesn’t work, just look at all the things that need to go COLs way here.

Big cap increase
Trade Manson
3 ELCs in the lineup
No cap space with only 21 on the roster

Just doesn’t work


We know the cap is going up. 87.7M minimum. Higher if the players and owners work a deal.

Manson's contract is setup to be moved next summer if needed. Trade protection decreases and the actual money owed is less than the cap hit. It's like they set it up to trade him if they needed to in order to fit Toews in.

Every team has a few ELCs in the lineup. But if you don't like ELCs, you can use vet's at the league min. There are plenty of bottom 6 Fs and bottom pair Ds on every roster for league min.

Avs typically roll with 21 skaters, so not really an issue.
Jul. 14, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewPawlack
Don't think Peeke is gonna be traded for scraps considering hes a semi-cheap shot blocking RHD that just started an extension. Would be a perfect 3rd pairing for a contender like Colorado. If we retain him like how Nashville did Ekholm he could fetch a minimum 2nd, or maybe a 1st since GMs love their big RHD


Tried to piece something together that was similar to a 2nd without using the '26 2nd. Could easily be a 3rd and a better prospect. I would be fine with a first for Peake, but I know the Avs brass prefers to keep their 1st round picks.
Jul. 14, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
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Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
A 50 point, elite two way defenceman that will be entering free agency as the cap begins to rise significantly will get a heck of a lot more than $7M… you’re likely looking at $8.5M at minimum. Remember that Seth Jones is getting $9.5M so unless Toews is willing to take a discount, you’re not getting him that cheap.


The fan theory floating around is that Toews would take a team-friendly deal in exchange for long-term security and trade protection. I am very skeptical of that but, to be sure, a team that might sign him in UFA could conceivably offer him $8.5x6 which is $51M while a $7x8 is $56M so that's a better deal for Toews (I do wonder how many years any team would be willing to offer a 31 y/o D, even one as good as Toews). However, I still don't see how it works considering the next year they have to re-sign Byram and Rantanen then Makar two years later.
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Jul. 14, 2023 at 8:35 p.m.
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Quoting: bcooke
We know the cap is going up. 87.7M minimum. Higher if the players and owners work a deal.

Manson's contract is setup to be moved next summer if needed. Trade protection decreases and the actual money owed is less than the cap hit. It's like they set it up to trade him if they needed to in order to fit Toews in.

Every team has a few ELCs in the lineup. But if you don't like ELCs, you can use vet's at the league min. There are plenty of bottom 6 Fs and bottom pair Ds on every roster for league min.

Avs typically roll with 21 skaters, so not really an issue.


We don’t know anything guaranteed about the cap. The league hasn’t released what the cap will be any time after this season, it’s only been projected. You’d be smarter to not bank on the increase just in case something falls through
Jul. 14, 2023 at 9:02 p.m.
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Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
We don’t know anything guaranteed about the cap. The league hasn’t released what the cap will be any time after this season, it’s only been projected. You’d be smarter to not bank on the increase just in case something falls through


The teams know better than we do. But HRR was reportedly 6.48B for 2022-23 and the escrow is expected to be paid off early next season. With a 50% split, that's good for a 101M cap. I used 87.7M as the CBA caps the growth at 5%.
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