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EK65

Created by: Caniac2000
Team: 2023-24 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 15, 2023
Published: Jul. 15, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Is this unrealistic? Yes. Was this super fun to create and the fact that there is a world where this could exist is lunacy
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
1$1,000,000
1$2,000,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Karlsson, Erik
4$2,875,000
Trades
1.
CAR
  1. Karlsson, Erik ($5,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
This happens when the Sharks finally realize they are not going to move EK without retaining half
SJS
  1. Coghlan, Dylan
  2. Drury, Jack
  3. Suzuki, Ryan
  4. 2024 1st round pick (CAR)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
2.
CAR
    Eat 50% of EK's remaining salary, can be any team
    ARI
    1. Heimosalmi, Aleksi
    2. Karlsson, Erik
    3. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
    3.
    CAR
    1. 2025 4th round pick (BOS)
    Additional Details:
    Can be any team, but he's from Michigan so I picked the Wings
    Buried
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2024
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    2025
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the BOS
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    2026
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    Logo of the CAR
    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$83,500,000$83,141,917$450,000$500,000$358,083
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $7,750,000$7,750,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $8,460,250$8,460,250
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,400,000$5,400,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,820,000$4,820,000
    C
    UFA - 7
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
    RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    C
    UFA
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $1,800,000$1,800,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $2,900,000$2,900,000
    C, LW
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $2,400,000$2,400,000
    RW
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,300,000$5,300,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,280,000$5,280,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $7,750,000$7,750,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Karlsson, Erik
    $2,875,000$2,875,000
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $4,025,000$4,025,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
    $762,500$762,500
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    $775,000$775,000
    RD
    UFA - 1

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    Jul. 15, 2023 at 7:36 p.m.
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    Sharks have had offers but the owner will not retain 50 percent on karl
    Jul. 15, 2023 at 7:37 p.m.
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    Quoting: mart
    Sharks have had offers but the owner will not retain 50 percent on karl


    That would be why he's still a Shark. They want the cap space moving him would bring, but don't want to make that deal movable.
    Jul. 15, 2023 at 7:44 p.m.
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    That would be why he's still a Shark. They want the cap space moving him would bring, but don't want to make that deal movable.


    It’s movable with much less retention than that, let’s not be silly about this. EK at 8.5 is very manageable and fair.
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    Jul. 15, 2023 at 7:49 p.m.
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    They're not retaining half. And definitely not for that. But the ask from Arizona is even worse. Gonna need to do better for 10 million and change in retention over four years.
    Jul. 15, 2023 at 7:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: glarson17
    It’s movable with much less retention than that, let’s not be silly about this. EK at 8.5 is very manageable and fair.


    Normally, yes. In a flat cap world for a dude whose ankle is made out of paper mache, no it's not
    Jul. 15, 2023 at 8:00 p.m.
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    Normally, yes. In a flat cap world for a dude whose ankle is made out of paper mache, no it's not


    That ankle put up 100 points last year and won the Norris. He’s not going at $20+ mil retention for failing prospects and a late 1st.

    Also the “flat cap era” excuse is weak considering the contract is for 4 years. This year, yes, it would be tight for most teams, but the cap is only going up from here and likely much more than it did this year.
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    Jul. 15, 2023 at 8:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: mart
    Sharks have had offers but the owner will not retain 50 percent on karl


    So say insiders who are just speculating like the rest of us. Grier said 50% *probably* isn't going to happen. Which is exactly what he would say even if he was willing to go to 50. You don't go into a press conference and announce to the whole league how eager you are to eat 5.7m a year. You want other teams upping their offers to try to entice you to go to that much retention.

    Its been rumored Hasso is part of the negotiations, but literally none of us (including "insiders" and people "reporting" on twitter) have any idea to what extent or even why. It's assumed that such involvement would hinder Grier, but that's also pure speculation. For all we know it was leaked that Hasso was involved to create the appearance that Sharks ownership was less willing to deal Karlsson. The effect has certainly been that most people think Hasso won't approve a significant retention offer unless its for a major return.

    Everyone thinks they know something about what's going on, how the negotiations are progressing and what offers have been made. The truth is that while its fun to speculate, no one outside the process actually knows anything at all.
    Jul. 15, 2023 at 8:29 p.m.
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    AZ wont do EK 50% (4yr x 5.75m) they have 1 retention spot gone (OEL x 8yrs - Buyout) and cant see leaving them only one for 4 years and only for a 2nd (when they have 4 already). I dont see any team committing to that much for less than more top picks and/or A prospects. That's a huge and lengthy contract, someone wants huge return to eat 50% of it.
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    Jul. 15, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
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    Normally, yes. In a flat cap world for a dude whose ankle is made out of paper mache, no it's not


    If you think his ankle is made out of paper mache, why would you want him?
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    Jul. 15, 2023 at 11:21 p.m.
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    From a Detroit perspective, I'd do that trade.
    Jul. 16, 2023 at 7:54 a.m.
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    Quoting: siamro
    If you think his ankle is made out of paper mache, why would you want him?


    I don't, I think it's an awful idea because he's not going to be anything like he was this year in his career again in all likelihood
    Jul. 16, 2023 at 7:58 a.m.
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    Quoting: glarson17
    That ankle put up 100 points last year and won the Norris. He’s not going at $20+ mil retention for failing prospects and a late 1st.

    Also the “flat cap era” excuse is weak considering the contract is for 4 years. This year, yes, it would be tight for most teams, but the cap is only going up from here and likely much more than it did this year.


    Yes, the one time the ankle didn't blow up EK showed he's still EK. The issue is that ankle has plagued him for almost a decade now. That ankle has played a full season once in the last what... 8 years? Combine that with him now being 33, this is a player primed to decline that makes 11.5 million in a league where no one has any cap space. San Jose will need to retain half to move him, and that's why he's still a Shark. They weren't willing to retain more than 20% at the deadline, now they're not willing to retain more than 30%. When they realize they need to eat half of it to move him, that's when they'll finally move him.

    Drury and Coghlan were both roster pieces on an Eastern Conference Finalist... they're not failing prospects like you claim. So not only are you delusional, but clueless too? impressive.

    You claim the flat cap era is a weak excuse huh... okay. Find a team that can take him on then and will be willing to at 8.5. I'll tell you right now Pittsburgh cannot make the math work (assuming Carter will not waive his NMC) and Carolina will have no interest paying that much for that long. Grier has already overplayed his hand losing the interest from Seattle, Toronto, Edmonton among others. Stop it.
    Jul. 16, 2023 at 10:13 a.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Yes, the one time the ankle didn't blow up EK showed he's still EK. The issue is that ankle has plagued him for almost a decade now. That ankle has played a full season once in the last what... 8 years? Combine that with him now being 33, this is a player primed to decline that makes 11.5 million in a league where no one has any cap space. San Jose will need to retain half to move him, and that's why he's still a Shark. They weren't willing to retain more than 20% at the deadline, now they're not willing to retain more than 30%. When they realize they need to eat half of it to move him, that's when they'll finally move him.

    Drury and Coghlan were both roster pieces on an Eastern Conference Finalist... they're not failing prospects like you claim. So not only are you delusional, but clueless too? impressive.

    You claim the flat cap era is a weak excuse huh... okay. Find a team that can take him on then and will be willing to at 8.5. I'll tell you right now Pittsburgh cannot make the math work (assuming Carter will not waive his NMC) and Carolina will have no interest paying that much for that long. Grier has already overplayed his hand losing the interest from Seattle, Toronto, Edmonton among others. Stop it.


    As I said this year would be difficult however with cap going up millions in each year to come it’s not that difficult. Also it hasn’t been his ankle every time he’s been injured so maybe you’re clueless? Coghlan is a third pair, Drury is a depth forward, Suzuki isn’t an nhler and likely won’t be. A trade can be made to work if a team wants him, it may be complicated but it’s absolutely attainable. It has to work for both sides and that’s why it hasn’t happened. Sharks will never retain $23 mil on Karlsson to get that return and watch him play for another team
    Jul. 16, 2023 at 10:34 a.m.
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    Quoting: glarson17
    As I said this year would be difficult however with cap going up millions in each year to come it’s not that difficult. Also it hasn’t been his ankle every time he’s been injured so maybe you’re clueless? Coghlan is a third pair, Drury is a depth forward, Suzuki isn’t an nhler and likely won’t be. A trade can be made to work if a team wants him, it may be complicated but it’s absolutely attainable. It has to work for both sides and that’s why it hasn’t happened. Sharks will never retain $23 mil on Karlsson to get that return and watch him play for another team


    Coghlan is 24, Drury is 23, Suzuki is 22 and will be in the NHL. He could have been in the league this year if the Canes depth didn't rival certain Pacific Ocean trenches. But none of these players are the finished article, and will likely flourish on teams that need NHL talent like the Sharks. Specifically Coghlan and Drury this season.

    San Jose are going to have to retain, and if they don't move him before the start of the season and that ankle goes, they will likely never be able to trade him. If they want to move him, they need to eat half that deal. If they're not going to eat 50%, they're likely not going to be able to move him this summer, which means they may never move him.
    Jul. 16, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.
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    I don't, I think it's an awful idea because he's not going to be anything like he was this year in his career again in all likelihood


    I would disagree.

    Before his injury he was a 2x norris winner and arguably one of the best D in the league. This injury was serious and didn't look like he'd fully recover. He's looked solid now for about a year and a half so it would seem that the injury is fully behind him. He is 33 but looks like he's in the best shape of his life and is skating as well as he ever has. I personally think he's worth the risk and I believe the Sharks will get a decent return for him as there are several teams with serious interest.

    For a contending team he could be the final piece
     
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