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Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 21, 2023
Published: Jul. 21, 2023
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Description
collection of ideas
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,275,000
4$4,175,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$4,125,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
  3. 2024 5th round pick (TOR)
  4. 2025 5th round pick (TOR)
  5. 2026 5th round pick (TOR)
2.
PHI
  1. Goodrow, Barclay
  2. 2025 6th round pick (NYR)
  3. 2026 3rd round pick (NYR)
  4. 2026 6th round pick (NYR)
NYR
3.
PHI
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (FLA)
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J Obrien compensation, not ARZ
ARI
4.
5.
6.
PHI
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis [RFA Rights]
NYR
  1. Fedotov, Ivan
  2. Laughton, Scott
  3. Zamula, Yegor
  4. 2024 1st round pick (FLA)
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (FLA)
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2024
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2025
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23$83,500,000$83,423,762$1,187,500$0$76,238
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
NMC
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
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UFA - 2
$4,175,000$4,175,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 2
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$3,275,000$3,275,000
C
RFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
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UFA - 3
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$3,641,667$3,641,667
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UFA - 4
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$2,375,000$2,375,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$785,000$785,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
$4,125,000$4,125,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$3,979,000$3,979,000
G
RFA - 1
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 8
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$5,100,000$5,100,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$775,000$775,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
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UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Taxi Squad
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$825,000$825,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$37,500$38K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
RFA - 1
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$847,500$847,500 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 2
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$903,333$903,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
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RFA - 3
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$823,333$823,333 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
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$859,167$859,167 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 8:16 a.m.
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Laf won’t cost you that much, you should get at least a 2nd+ for Murray and I’d hold onto Fedotov. Unless a team pays like a 2nd or the value equal to it, his upside is worth it.
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 8:30 a.m.
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Bemstrom could almost certainly be had for free. There's no room for Poehling in Columbus, in any case.
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 8:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
Laf won’t cost you that much, you should get at least a 2nd+ for Murray and I’d hold onto Fedotov. Unless a team pays like a 2nd or the value equal to it, his upside is worth it.


Laffy is gonna be an overpayment or not at all lol. Especially within division
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 8:37 a.m.
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
Laf won’t cost you that much, you should get at least a 2nd+ for Murray and I’d hold onto Fedotov. Unless a team pays like a 2nd or the value equal to it, his upside is worth it.


* he won’t cost a thing as he isn’t available…
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 8:48 a.m.
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Laffy is gonna be an overpayment or not at all lol. Especially within division


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* he won’t cost a thing as he isn’t available…



Could go sign him for a 1x4.1 deal, pay a 2nd and the rangers can’t match without being forced to overpay to dump Goodrow.

Laf accomplished less than Dach did to get a 1st, so many Laf gets a late first. He’s not longer this “elite” prospect, he’s just a raw middle six forward
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 8:51 a.m.
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Flames decline
Jul. 21, 2023 at 8:54 a.m.
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I know Lindholm needs to be resigned but there's no way Calgary is adding to that trade.

Overpayment for Laff, honestly think if he goes one more year playing less minutes or doesn't take a step forward the Rangers hand is going to be forced by either him or an offer sheet. It's likely what's holding up contract negotiations right now and it will be telling how long he signs for this time around.
Jul. 21, 2023 at 8:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
Could go sign him for a 1x4.1 deal, pay a 2nd and the rangers can’t match without being forced to overpay to dump Goodrow.

Laf accomplished less than Dach did to get a 1st, so many Laf gets a late first. He’s not longer this “elite” prospect, he’s just a raw middle six forward


Philly doesn’t have their own 2nd, so it’s either a 1st and 3rd offer sheet, no offer sheet or total overpayment

Just because Laffy has under performed doesn’t mean they should sell him low. Should the islanders trade wahlstrom for a 3rd? Lol
Jul. 21, 2023 at 8:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
Could go sign him for a 1x4.1 deal, pay a 2nd and the rangers can’t match without being forced to overpay to dump Goodrow.

Laf accomplished less than Dach did to get a 1st, so many Laf gets a late first. He’s not longer this “elite” prospect, he’s just a raw middle six forward


Could certainly make the offer. Doesn’t mean he signs it which is the one thing 90% of people on here can’t comprehend. There’s been more OS turned down than sign over the last 5 seasons
Jul. 21, 2023 at 8:57 a.m.
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Philly doesn’t have their own 2nd, so it’s either a 1st and 3rd offer sheet, no offer sheet or total overpayment

Just because Laffy has under performed doesn’t mean they should sell him low. Should the islanders trade wahlstrom for a 3rd? Lol


The islanders signed Wahlstrom ☠️☠️☠️.

And like I told this guy, it’s not about the actual offer sheet. It’s about leverage. GMs use it as leverage. They don’t wanna actually do it, but it’s how value is gauged. Why pay a haul when we could only pay a 2nd? Fine, we will meet in the middle and give u a first
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 8:59 a.m.
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Quoting: NYR1983
Could certainly make the offer. Doesn’t mean he signs it which is the one thing 90% of people on here can’t comprehend. There’s been more OS turned down than sign over the last 5 seasons


Laf is not worth remotely close to 4.1 mil. Why wouldn’t he sign it? His career has been ruined in NY, so going to a team where he could play 18 mins and PP1 would actually help him.

And I’m not saying he will be offer sheeted, but it’s a negotiation tactic and used to asses value. GMs use it as leverage.
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:01 a.m.
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Not a fan of the Calgary trade cause it doesn’t help us rebuild but it would be an interesting return that’s for sure. Also think you can definitely get more from Toronto and honestly I’m not touching Goodrow’s contract unless a 1st is coming back with it the dude is still owed $14.5M.
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:01 a.m.
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Quoting: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
Laf is not worth remotely close to 4.1 mil. Why wouldn’t he sign it? His career has been ruined in NY, so going to a team where he could play 18 mins and PP1 would actually help him.

And I’m not saying he will be offer sheeted, but it’s a negotiation tactic and used to asses value. GMs use it as leverage.


Well the usual uneducated hot take… what analytics are you using to confirm his career is ruined?? 😂
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:02 a.m.
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The islanders signed Wahlstrom ☠️☠️☠️.


So what? Lol he has 0 value is my point. And are the islander gonna trade him because his value is low? No
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:03 a.m.
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Laf is not worth remotely close to 4.1 mil. Why wouldn’t he sign it? His career has been ruined in NY, so going to a team where he could play 18 mins and PP1 would actually help him.

And I’m not saying he will be offer sheeted, but it’s a negotiation tactic and used to asses value. GMs use it as leverage.


If laffy’s career is ruined, then what is wahlstrom’s? Lol he’s been way worse than Laffy
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Rags21
So what? Lol he has 0 value is my point. And are the islander gonna trade him because his value is low? No


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If laffy’s career is ruined, then what is wahlstrom’s? Lol he’s been way worse than Laffy


When did this become about Wahlstrom bro what? tears of joy I know Wahlstrom’s value is very low tho. He didn’t produce then got hurt, why would his value be high?

Laf was a highly touted first OVR pick who has done nothing in his career so far. His career is in jeopardy with how he is playing. I didn’t say it’s over, just getting ruined.

Again, when did this become about Wahlstrom 😂😂😂. He also wasn’t taken FIRST OVERALL. he’d probably get a 55-70 pick , like was Lias Andersen got.
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:11 a.m.
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Quoting: NYR1983
Well the usual uneducated hot take… what analytics are you using to confirm his career is ruined?? 😂


Being a replacement level player in nearly every metric…

Kakko is actually good. He’s grown really well into his role and is likely gonna be a great two way, 50-60 point guy in his prime. A Mangiapagne in a way. This isn’t me crapping on the rangers, this is me being honest about Laf. Stop being so defensive
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:12 a.m.
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When did this become about Wahlstrom bro what? tears of joy I know Wahlstrom’s value is very low tho. He didn’t produce then got hurt, why would his value be high?

Laf was a highly touted first OVR pick who has done nothing in his career so far. His career is in jeopardy with how he is playing. I didn’t say it’s over, just getting ruined.

Again, when did this become about Wahlstrom 😂😂😂


It’s called a comparison you idiot lol. Both 1st round picks have low value so why would either team trade them

40 points from Laffy with 15 minutes on the 3rd line isn’t exactly “bust” material. And if he is a bust, then why do all of other fans trade for him on this website
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:14 a.m.
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Being a replacement level player in nearly every metric…

Kakko is actually good. He’s grown really well into his role and is likely gonna be a great two way, 50-60 point guy in his prime. A Mangiapagne in a way. This isn’t me crapping on the rangers, this is me being honest about Laf. Stop being so defensive


That’s because Kakko had a good season this past year lol Kakko wasn’t that impressive on his ELC, just like Laffy. Same thing for Chytil. Some players bloom late in the league aka Thompson
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:14 a.m.
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It’s called a comparison you idiot lol. Both 1st round picks have low value so why would either team trade them

40 points from Laffy with 15 minutes on the 3rd line isn’t exactly “bust” material. And if he is a bust, then why do all of other fans trade for him on this website


Because he is still very talented.

Wahlstrom has like no value. He’s been trash since coming to the nhl.

40 points on 15 minutes a night is terrible for a 1st OVR pick as a DY+3 like what. Especially when he’s played with Mika and Panarin and Kreider at times. And on the PP, one of the leagues best
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:15 a.m.
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Awful for Calgary
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Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:15 a.m.
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That’s because Kakko had a good season this past year lol Kakko wasn’t that impressive on his ELC, just like Laffy. Same thing for Chytil. Some players bloom late in the league aka Thompson



If you’re expecting him to be like Tage, you’re an idiot.

And guess what, Tage was almost traded for a 5th to Anaheim before breaking out, with ANAHEIM backing out.

And Kakko had a terrible rookie year but has improved every year since, Laf has not. That’s the difference. Chytil was always solid and poised to break out, he has had a super unlucky career.
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:18 a.m.
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Because he is still very talented.

Wahlstrom has like no value. He’s been trash since coming to the nhl.

40 points on 15 minutes a night is terrible for a 1st OVR pick as a DY+3 like what. Especially when he’s played with Mika and Panarin and Kreider at times. And on the PP, one of the leagues best


Especially when he played with Panarin, mika and Kreider at times? You mean like the whole 5 games gallant gave him in the top 6

On the PP!? Dude he’s never been on the 1st powerplay ever. He gets 15 minutes on the 3rd all at even strength and 15 minutes is being generous. Before Gallant, Quinn had Laffy on the 4th line sometimes lol

There’s a HUGE difference between Laffy and Hughes or Stutzle playing 20 minutes a night on top line and top powerplay. More minutes, better linemates, etc.
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:20 a.m.
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For NYR fans they can't/won;t admit that Lefreniere is a disappointment, and I get it. His production and development on a really good team has been a disappointment, but certainly not a finished product, but you cant say after 3 pro seasons that 3rd line is where he was meant to be, and NYR will go for the best now solution.
But he could be a quality top 6 forward possibly in another system.

The PHI offer is a quality leader guy who plays all three positions, signed cheaply, plays a physical game AND out produced Lafreniere in more minutes last year on a far worse team that couldn;t score. But Laughton might be moreso the type of player NYR needs to take the next step.

Laffy isnt going to be the cheap re-sign some believe him to be and NYR might be out of their window in 2-3 yrs, so maybe theres something in combining the two deals above: Goodrow and Lafreniere for Laughton, prospect goalie Fedotov, young but developing dman Zamula and a 2nd.
Jul. 21, 2023 at 9:21 a.m.
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If you’re expecting him to be like Tage, you’re an idiot.

And guess what, Tage was almost traded for a 5th to Anaheim before breaking out, with ANAHEIM backing out.

And Kakko had a terrible rookie year but has improved every year since, Laf has not. That’s the difference. Chytil was always solid and poised to break out, he has had a super unlucky career.


I literally never said he was gonna be like Thompson. I’m simply stating some players bloom late like Thompson or Troy Terry. Even Mackinnon and Barkov had slow starts to their careers. But it’s funny because everyone calls Laffy a bust, but no one talks about QB on the Kings who’s been worse than Laffy
 
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