The Only EK trade that makes sense

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Created by: Pensfan303

Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 21, 2023

Published: Jul. 21, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

If the pens get EK, yes it will be a 3 team trade however, the 3rd team WILL NOT be retaining salary on EK and will only be there to take on Jeff Petry. I have seen way to many ACGM having a 3rd team retaining money on EK and it makes no sense.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
O'Connor, Drew		1	$775,000

Trades

PIT

Karlsson, Erik ($3,000,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Sharks retain 26% of EK contract, reports are that they want to retain 20% or so, Dubas gets the Sharks to retain a extra 700k.

SJS

Granlund, Mikael
Murashov, Sergei [Reserve List]
Smith, Ty
2024 1st round pick (PIT)
2025 3rd round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

Granlund is money going back. Someone who can play in their top 6 and hopefully for them regain some trade value or be useful haha.

Ty Smith, former 1st round pick, hes a great skater, puck moving OFD who can QB the PP replacing EK, he can play both the left and right side and would give the sharks some much needed offense on the back end after moving EK.

Sergei Murashov, He's looking like a solid goaltending prospect, he did very well in the MHL and in his lone KHL start.

2024 1st, top 5 protected

Now is this a great return, no it isn't. however unless the Sharks retain 50% they won't be getting a kings ransom for EK. To me this is about the return we will see for EK.

PIT

CHI

Petry, Jeff
2025 2nd round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

Petry is obviously the odd man out if EK is going to be a penguin. Chicago makes the most sense to be the 3rd team involved they have cap space and Chicago is close to Petry's home. Chicago can also then flip him at the deadline if they want at 50% in order to gain more assets to build around Bedard.

Basing the trade around the Cal Petersen and Sean Walker cap dump (7.65mil). (2nd and Grans). To me Petry is better than both players that went to Philly and still holds some value and like I mentioned, Petry can easily be flipped at the deadline to a contender at 50% for even more assets.

Buyouts

Jack Johnson: $916,667

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$80,466,842	$0	$0	$3,033,158

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Rakell, Rickard $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
Smith, Reilly $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Malkin, Evgeni $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Rust, Bryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 5
Puustinen, Valtteri $775,000$775,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Eller, Lars $2,450,000$2,450,000 C UFA - 2	Hinostroza, Vinnie $775,000$775,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
O'Connor, Drew $775,000$775,000 LW UFA - 2	Acciari, Noel $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Nieto, Matt $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Graves, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 6	Letang, Kris $6,100,000$6,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Jarry, Tristan $5,375,000$5,375,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Karlsson, Erik $7,000,000$7,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	DeSmith, Casey $1,800,000$1,800,000 G UFA - 1
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier $825,000$825,000 LD RFA - 1	Rutta, Jan $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Carter, Jeff $3,125,000$3,125,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 1
Ruhwedel, Chad $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1
Johnsson, Andreas $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Nedeljkovic, Alex $1,500,000$1,500,000 ($350,000$350K$350,000$350K) G UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Letang, K.		Crosby, S.		Guentzel, J.
	Karlsson, E.		Malkin, E.

Power Play 2
Rakell, R.		Eller, L.		Rust, B.
	Joseph, P.		Smith, R.

Penalty Kill 1
	Acciari, N.	Nieto, M.
	Graves, R.	Letang, K.

Penalty Kill 2
	Eller, L.	Rust, B.
	Pettersson, M.	Rutta, J.

Jul. 21, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.

JK74

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I saw this and braced myself for another EK retention discussion. This does make sense and I think Chicago probably accepts. Based on the amount still owed, they may ask for more but to me this makes sense.

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Jul. 21, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.

CheechYou

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Blomqvist instead of Murashov and a 2025 1st instead of a 2025 3rd and it's a deal.

Jul. 21, 2023 at 5:07 p.m.

Pensfan303

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Quoting: JK74

ya I keep seing other ACGM that have a 3rd team retain, to me it would only make sense if EK had 1 or 2 season left on his deal not 4. the 3rd team that will be involved if this trade goes down is just to take on Petry and not to retain on EK

Jul. 21, 2023 at 5:08 p.m.

Pensfan303

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Edited Jul. 21, 2023 at 5:23 p.m.

Quoting: CheechYou

Blomqvist instead of Murashov and a 2025 1st instead of a 2025 3rd and it's a deal.

then you can keep EK. I would be willing to switch out Murashov for Blomqvist, however I would not pay nor should any team pay 2 1st for EK unless the sharks are retaining 50% which they have made known that they won't retain that much or even close to that. This is most likely a very similar return to what the Sharks will get for EK. IF/When EK is traded, I got a feeling we will be seing alot of Sharks fans saying it's a under whelming return.

Jul. 21, 2023 at 5:43 p.m.

PaulKorea

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Hawks are going to want more than a 2nd to take Petry.

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Jul. 21, 2023 at 6:02 p.m.

Pensfan303

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Quoting: PaulKorea

Hawks are going to want more than a 2nd to take Petry.

I doubt it, hes not a negative asset and has some value, pens would just need to clear his cap, See the Taylor Hall trade except here they also get a 2nd

Jul. 21, 2023 at 6:39 p.m.

qc14

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I think PIT is maybe a bit optimistic in having Smith be the "prospect" they give up but this is very reasonable overall. I completely agree that a 3rd team is only going to be involved as a spot for Petry, and it's what Freidman has been reporting the entire time too

Jul. 21, 2023 at 6:56 p.m.

PaulKorea

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Quoting: Pensfan303

I doubt it, hes not a negative asset and has some value, pens would just need to clear his cap, See the Taylor Hall trade except here they also get a 2nd

They needed a someone to play with Bedard and get to the cap floor. Chicago is over the cap floor now and has no need for Petry. A 2nd isn't enough to take on 12+ million in salary for a player they have no use for.

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Jul. 21, 2023 at 7:07 p.m.

Hawksguy81

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Quoting: Pensfan303

I doubt it, hes not a negative asset and has some value, pens would just need to clear his cap, See the Taylor Hall trade except here they also get a 2nd

See the Josh Bailey trade. A 2nd for one year @ $5m cap hit and $3.5m actual salary. And Hawks needed Hall to play w/ Bedard. They don't need a $6m 3rd pair RD. Hawks might be willing to take Petry, but it definitely takes more than a 2nd. Probably another 2nd or a 3rd.

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Jul. 21, 2023 at 7:48 p.m.

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glarson17

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Quoting: CheechYou

Blomqvist instead of Murashov and a 2025 1st instead of a 2025 3rd and it's a deal.

Murashov looks solid and is years younger. I would be just fine with him

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Jul. 22, 2023 at 12:44 a.m.

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Quoting: JK74

I respectfully disagree, $6.25m for the next two seasons and the $$ payout being the same for Petry means at least one 1st round pick and the equivalent of a second 1st round pick which could be a combination of prospects and picks.

If the Penguins are willing to take a bad contract back (I.e. last year of Zaitsev) to lessen the cap hit then the price could come down.

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Jul. 22, 2023 at 6:55 a.m.

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JK74

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Quoting: Snowhawk18

I should have also stated that this is dependent on Richardson and Petry's relationship in Montréal. If Richardson feels he's another great locker room guy then it's worth settling for a 2nd. I don't think the amount hurts the Hawks in any way so he could be making $12M but if the net positive is team growth plus draft capital, I make the trade.

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