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Created by: Shaners79
Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 20, 2023
Published: Jul. 22, 2023
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Send Toronto the contract they want for the next 4 years along with some youth.Willy deserves better. In all seriousness, I hope Nylander ends up with a team that knows his value. I'd like to see him on Anaheim with Zegras
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Jul. 22 at 9:49 a.m.
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The leafs know Nylander's value
Jul. 22 at 9:53 a.m.
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The contract Toronto would want would be John Marino. There’s your starting point
Jul. 22 at 10:00 a.m.
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Ugh, this Nylander deal is going to be the thing we deal with now huh?

Palat wouldn't waive to move and these types of of rentals shorten windows.
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Jul. 22 at 10:03 a.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Ugh, this Nylander deal is going to be the thing we deal with now huh?

Palat wouldn't waive to move and these types of of rentals shorten windows.


Lol,nah. It's the middle of summer. Boredom is setting in. I wouldn't trade for Willy unless there was an extension.
Jul. 22 at 10:05 a.m.
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Not sure the trade makes sense for either team but value seems about right. ‘Willy deserves better’ - huh? He’s playing for the league’s top franchise with first rate facilities and coaching / support staff, top 5 team, superstar linemates and annual trips to the playoffs. He’s also about to sign a $$$ extension somewhere (hopefully TO. 🤞). He’s good
Jul. 22 at 10:16 a.m.
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Quoting: MitchJr
Not sure the trade makes sense for either team but value seems about right. ‘Willy deserves better’ - huh? He’s playing for the league’s top franchise with first rate facilities and coaching / support staff, top 5 team, superstar linemates and annual trips to the playoffs. He’s also about to sign a $$$ extension somewhere (hopefully TO. 🤞). He’s good


Means, he should be treated with the same respect that they give Marner, Matthews. Why should Nylander bend? He keeps pace with those two and performs yet when he asks for a number similar to those guys leafs fans balk at the idea?
Jul. 22 at 10:29 a.m.
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Means, he should be treated with the same respect that they give Marner, Matthews. Why should Nylander bend? He keeps pace with those two and performs yet when he asks for a number similar to those guys leafs fans balk at the idea?

Negotiating is disrespect? Don’t let the media or fans drive this narrative - none of us know what has been said behind closed doors. Lots of pending FAs haven’t re-signed - are Aho or Toews or Pesce being disrespected?
And Nylander is a game breaker, 40 goals, ppg - love him but he is not at the level of Matthews or Marner, unreasonable to claim he is.
Jul. 22 at 10:34 a.m.
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The leafs know Nylander's value


its 10M, so I guess they don't.

Kaprizov is the comparable.
Jul. 22 at 10:37 a.m.
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Leafs know Nylander's value: he's the 5th best player on a good team, in the playoffs and in the RS. He shouldn't get more than Rielly and nor should Tavares and Marner as Rielly is more valuable to them than any of those 3...

As for the trade... Replace Palat with Mercer and sure
Jul. 22 at 10:39 a.m.
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Quoting: MitchJr
Not sure the trade makes sense for either team but value seems about right. ‘Willy deserves better’ - huh? He’s playing for the league’s top franchise with first rate facilities and coaching / support staff, top 5 team, superstar linemates and annual trips to the playoffs. He’s also about to sign a $$$ extension somewhere (hopefully TO. 🤞). He’s good


Ah, there's that toronto fans sense of entitlement
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Jul. 22 at 10:40 a.m.
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Means, he should be treated with the same respect that they give Marner, Matthews. Why should Nylander bend? He keeps pace with those two and performs yet when he asks for a number similar to those guys leafs fans balk at the idea?


Leafs fans love their players until they have to pay them. You should have seen how marner was adored on here before his contract.
Jul. 22 at 10:40 a.m.
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Means, he should be treated with the same respect that they give Marner, Matthews. Why should Nylander bend? He keeps pace with those two and performs yet when he asks for a number similar to those guys leafs fans balk at the idea?


Nylander got the same respect... He isn't better than 4 other guys on the Leafs... So the Leafs shouldn't offer him 8 mill-9.5 mill+ money unless it's an 8 year deal and max 10
Jul. 22 at 10:41 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Ah, there's that toronto fans sense of entitlement


Value wise, he's not wrong... considering Toronto could put out a beer league team and the arena would still be sold out
Jul. 22 at 10:41 a.m.
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Leafs know Nylander's value: he's the 5th best player on a good team, in the playoffs and in the RS. He shouldn't get more than Rielly and nor should Tavares and Marner as Rielly is more valuable to them than any of those 3...

As for the trade... Replace Palat with Mercer and sure


Well, he's the 3rd best player and closer to 2nd than 4th
Jul. 22 at 10:42 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Well, he's the 3rd best player and closer to 2nd than 4th


He's not better than Matthews and Marner for sure... And I don't take hime over Rielly and Tavares. Nylander plays on the perimeter, Tavares and Rielly don't and their playoff stats back it up

The list of importance IMO is:
-Matthews
-Rielly
-Tavares/Marner
-Nylander
Jul. 22 at 10:44 a.m.
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He's not better than Matthews and Marner for sure... And I don't take hime over Rielly and Tavares. Nylander plays on the perimeter, Tavares and Rielly don't and their playoff stats back it up

The list of importance IMO is:
-Matthews
-Rielly
-Tavares/Marner
-Nylander


So back the the guys original point, Leafs fans dont know nylanders value
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Jul. 22 at 10:47 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
So back the the guys original point, Leafs fans dont know nylanders value


He's not better offensively than the 4 guys ahead of him and he's a net negative on the defensive end... and he's the worst playoff performer... Where's the added value to Nylander? He's also not a centre or a defensemen
Jul. 22 at 11:12 a.m.
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He's not better offensively than the 4 guys ahead of him and he's a net negative on the defensive end... and he's the worst playoff performer... Where's the added value to Nylander? He's also not a centre or a defensemen


Yikes
Jul. 22 at 11:13 a.m.
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Yikes


How about the Sabres go after him then? If he's so valuable?
Jul. 22 at 11:29 a.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Leafs know Nylander's value: he's the 5th best player on a good team, in the playoffs and in the RS. He shouldn't get more than Rielly and nor should Tavares and Marner as Rielly is more valuable to them than any of those 3...

As for the trade... Replace Palat with Mercer and sure


Mercer is part of our "Core 10"
Jul. 22 at 11:44 a.m.
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Mercer is part of our "Core 10"


And? You aren't getting Nylander for a cap dump, prospect and a late 1st
Jul. 22 at 11:47 a.m.
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Leafs and Leafs fans know Nylander's value. As a result he isn't going to be traded this season as the the Leafs are in win mode..
Leafs won't have the cap to sign all their UFAs next season....so maybe Nylander won't be a Leaf next season, but that's the nature of free agency.
Certainly the Leafs aren't trading Nylander this season for lesser immediate value (as your trade proposed) or for a long term iffy contract (as your trade proposed)
Jul. 22 at 11:52 a.m.
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How about the Sabres go after him then? If he's so valuable?


I've thought about it, but I am happy with our roster building.
Jul. 22 at 12:01 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
So back the the guys original point, Leafs fans dont know nylanders value


Ridiculous argument, you may think Dahlin is more valuable than Thompson - does that mean you are disrespecting Thompson 😅? Gimme a break, I know you have no love for the Leafs but manufacturing drama with no basis is habs weak
Jul. 22 at 12:33 p.m.
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
its 10M, so I guess they don't.

Kaprizov is the comparable.


Funny how you guys all day this but then offer paltry returns on him for trades. Double standard always
 
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