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Team: 2023-24 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 25, 2023
Published: Jul. 25, 2023
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2024
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22$83,500,000$79,670,834$4,500,000$500,000$3,829,166
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
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UFA - 2
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
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$11,250,000$11,250,000
RW
NMC
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,137,500$1,137,500
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
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Jul. 25, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.
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Flames pass. Dont need another roadblock for Wolf
Jul. 25, 2023 at 2:17 p.m.
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One of your top prospects have to be added, either Lohrei or Lysell.
Jul. 25, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
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Hawks pass. They're set at LD.
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Jul. 25, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.
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Hawks decline. They aren't paying anything to acquire Forbert.
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Jul. 25, 2023 at 2:37 p.m.
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The fit is certainly right for Lindholm and the Bruins, the trouble is the Bs don't really have the goods the Flames would be looking for. The big asset is obviously Swayman, but with Dustin Wolf in the pipeline he's not nearly as attractive to the Flames as he might be elsewhere. On top of that the 2026 1st rounder isn't a huge chip for a Flames team that is still trying to compete. Without Swayman I think the Bruins would need to add one of Lysell or Lohrei, plus the 2025 1st.
Jul. 25, 2023 at 2:42 p.m.
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That's a bunch of junk for two really good players their prime and a solid backup. I don't see Boston as a good trade partner, they have a poor prospect pool and have traded away a lot of picks already
Jun. 5 at 3:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Flames pass. Dont need another roadblock for Wolf


Quoting: Shaun80
One of your top prospects have to be added, either Lohrei or Lysell.


ahhhh this is fun to look back on. thank god boston didn't do this.
Jun. 5 at 4:28 p.m.
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ahhhh this is fun to look back on. thank god boston didn't do this.


Not quite sure why you pinged me. my answer hasn't changed
Jun. 5 at 5:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Not quite sure why you pinged me. my answer hasn't changed


lol, cmon.
Jun. 5 at 5:05 p.m.
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lol, cmon.


Huh? Why would it?
Jun. 5 at 5:48 p.m.
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Huh? Why would it?


oh really? would you prefer:
VGK 2026 1st round pick
VGK 3rd round pick
Van 2024 1st round pick
Miromanov
Kuzmenko
Jurmo
Brzustuwicz

OR
Swayman
Frederic
Poitras
BOS 1st round pick - we'll cut out mitchell and grzeclyk because whatever

Swayman might be worth more than anything above. Add in Poitras and sheesh.
Jun. 5 at 6:25 p.m.
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oh really? would you prefer:
VGK 2026 1st round pick
VGK 3rd round pick
Van 2024 1st round pick
Miromanov
Kuzmenko
Jurmo
Brzustuwicz

OR
Swayman
Frederic
Poitras
BOS 1st round pick - we'll cut out mitchell and grzeclyk because whatever

Swayman might be worth more than anything above. Add in Poitras and sheesh.


Again not changing my answer. That's great that Swayman is going to be your long term starter but he would still be blocking Wolf in Calgary. 2 1sts + a flipable asset in Kuzmenko + a high end defense prospect in Bruze is pretty good
Jun. 5 at 7:23 p.m.
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Again not changing my answer. That's great that Swayman is going to be your long term starter but he would still be blocking Wolf in Calgary. 2 1sts + a flipable asset in Kuzmenko + a high end defense prospect in Bruze is pretty good


what do you think the chances of wolf reaching swaymans caliber are? 2%?
What are the odds that Bruze looks like what Lohrei looks like at the NHL level?
then you've got a teenager that's played center at the NHL level and frederic?

if you're not changing your answer, you're lying to yourself.
Jun. 5 at 7:48 p.m.
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what do you think the chances of wolf reaching swaymans caliber are? 2%?
What are the odds that Bruze looks like what Lohrei looks like at the NHL level?
then you've got a teenager that's played center at the NHL level and frederic?

if you're not changing your answer, you're lying to yourself.


Much higher than that lol. Swayman is a top 7-12 goalie in the league, I think that is absolutely within possibility for Wolf.

Bruze is a maybe but he did just put up a 90+ point season in his D+1 year.

Minten also played in the NHL as a teenager this year before being sent down, that really doesn't mean that much.

Trent is a 3rd liner
Jun. 5 at 7:52 p.m.
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Much higher than that lol. Swayman is a top 7-12 goalie in the league, I think that is absolutely within possibility for Wolf.

Bruze is a maybe but he did just put up a 90+ point season in his D+1 year.

Minten also played in the NHL as a teenager this year before being sent down, that really doesn't mean that much.

Trent is a 3rd liner


Minten played 4 games, and was sent back down to junior because he wasn't cutting it. Poitras was a major piece of a club that I believe was first in the NHL at the time of his injury. they had the opportunity to send him back, they declined. very different.

Frederic has moved up and down the lineup a lot. He's on a good team with some good wingers ahead of him. He's been driving play. He's carried lines at times. He's often a third liner by circumstance, not by talent.
Jun. 5 at 11:12 p.m.
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Minten played 4 games, and was sent back down to junior because he wasn't cutting it. Poitras was a major piece of a club that I believe was first in the NHL at the time of his injury. they had the opportunity to send him back, they declined. very different.

Frederic has moved up and down the lineup a lot. He's on a good team with some good wingers ahead of him. He's been driving play. He's carried lines at times. He's often a third liner by circumstance, not by talent.


Poitras is a decent prospect but I'm not going to read into his small sample size that much.

Again I do not retract my statement about Calgary declining. Maybe it was better for Boston that they didn't make the trade but that doesn't make my statement suddenly wrong
Jun. 6 at 9:16 a.m.
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Poitras is a decent prospect but I'm not going to read into his small sample size that much.

Again I do not retract my statement about Calgary declining. Maybe it was better for Boston that they didn't make the trade but that doesn't make my statement suddenly wrong


he's an NHLer, not a prospect.

Also, Swayman is 2nd in save% and 3rd in GAA over the past two seasons. after seeing him in the playoffs, 7-12 is a ranking that would likely raise some eyebrows.
Jun. 6 at 9:33 a.m.
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he's an NHLer, not a prospect.

Also, Swayman is 2nd in save% and 3rd in GAA over the past two seasons. after seeing him in the playoffs, 7-12 is a ranking that would likely raise some eyebrows.


Whatever, 33 games in my book does not qualify you as an NHLer.

Swayman plays behind a very strong defense in a very defense oriented system. He is a good goalie but I doubt anyone is taking him above Shesterkin, Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Saros, Hellebuyck, or Demko. Probably not Oettinger either. That's 7 goalies right there. You can probably make a compelling argument for any of Bobrovsky, Binnington, or Markstrom too. And then his own teammate in Ullmark. Swayman falls somewhere in that range.

What really boggles me here is why you are getting so offended that my opinion on the original proposal isn't changed.
Jun. 6 at 9:36 a.m.
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Whatever, 33 games in my book does not qualify you as an NHLer.

Swayman plays behind a very strong defense in a very defense oriented system. He is a good goalie but I doubt anyone is taking him above Shesterkin, Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Saros, Hellebuyck, or Demko. Probably not Oettinger either. That's 7 goalies right there. You can probably make a compelling argument for any of Bobrovsky, Binnington, or Markstrom too. And then his own teammate in Ullmark. Swayman falls somewhere in that range


when a team burns a year off a players ELC as a teenager, and they would be eligible for full AHL duties at the end of the season with the entry level slide in effect, it means they're an NHLer. teams don't just burn ELC years on non NHL guys. he got hurt and needed season ending surgery. it happens.
Jun. 6 at 9:44 a.m.
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when a team burns a year off a players ELC as a teenager, and they would be eligible for full AHL duties at the end of the season with the entry level slide in effect, it means they're an NHLer. teams don't just burn ELC years on non NHL guys. he got hurt and needed season ending surgery. it happens.


Actually teams have started burning them on purpose recently because they are far more likely to get that player on a long term team friendly deal if their ELC ends before they reach their potential. Iirc Chicago recently did this with Alex Vlasic and Lukas Reichel. If you know you are going to have the cap space in 2 years to sign them to a more team friendly deal then it's logical to burn the ELC asap.
Jun. 6 at 10:14 a.m.
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Actually teams have started burning them on purpose recently because they are far more likely to get that player on a long term team friendly deal if their ELC ends before they reach their potential. Iirc Chicago recently did this with Alex Vlasic and Lukas Reichel. If you know you are going to have the cap space in 2 years to sign them to a more team friendly deal then it's logical to burn the ELC asap.


your example is a team that has absolutely no cap restrictions for the foreseeable future. That is most certainly not the case with the Bruins. Nothing would be more impactful for them than having a center playing on his ELC for them. With Vlasic, I believe signing him after college burns a year off the ELC regardless. It's a common tactic, because otherwise you might lose the players rights entirely. So Reichel might be your only example, and to be honest I don't know enough about the situation to comment on the handling of his contract.
Jun. 6 at 4:54 p.m.
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your example is a team that has absolutely no cap restrictions for the foreseeable future. That is most certainly not the case with the Bruins. Nothing would be more impactful for them than having a center playing on his ELC for them. With Vlasic, I believe signing him after college burns a year off the ELC regardless. It's a common tactic, because otherwise you might lose the players rights entirely. So Reichel might be your only example, and to be honest I don't know enough about the situation to comment on the handling of his contract.


That was 1 example, but this is something that Friedman talked about on 32 thoughts a while back. Simon Edvinsson maybe?
Sun. at 5:19 p.m.
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ahhhh this is fun to look back on. thank god boston didn't do this.


Thank God the flames didn't either, they ended up getting much more back in return
Sun. at 5:41 p.m.
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Thank God the flames didn't either, they ended up getting much more back in return


ya or like 30% as much. probably less. maybe between 20-25
Sun. at 8:53 p.m.
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ya or like 30% as much. probably less. maybe between 20-25


Lol I think you might be over rating your players. Swayman would have been a good pickup, poitras is OK, nothing else in the trade moves the needle.
 
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