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Created by: Domiyouknowme
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 1, 2023
Published: Aug. 1, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
TOR
  1. Thompson, Tage
  2. 2025 2nd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Lajoie, Maxime
  2. Tavares, John
  3. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
3 million retained salary.
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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22$83,500,000$81,711,807$0$0$1,788,193
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
C
UFA - 7
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.
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Quoting: Domiyouknowme
Tage put up 47 goals this year, JT scored 36, The offense isn't all towards Tage, and Tage only had 3 more assists than johnny with 47. So Tage isn't that much better offensively than Tavares. And Tavares is still better on the defensive side of the puck.


That’s like 25% more goals… how is that not significant lol.
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Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:19 p.m.
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I think both teams should work on a package around Matthews for Okposo. Okposo brings the leadership that Tor lacks to make deep playoff runs. He’s also great defensively and that makes up for the lack of offense he provides. Also he’s buddies with Tavares. It just makes too much sense. Don’t think about the other aspects of this. Just focus on only what I have stated.
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Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Lsendel3
JT isn’t good defensively. He’s neutral at best. And Tage isn’t terrible at it, he’s just mildly bad. So the impact JT has on the ice defensively doesn’t overtake the fact that Tage is vastly superior offensively. Now the leadership aspect. Do you really think that JT is gonna be happy being traded? Will be maintain being this obviously best leader in the NHL (that can’t push his team when needed)? Or will he become a problem because he forced his way to only TOR, and now is in a place he doesn’t want to be?

How about contract length? Does that matter to you? What about age? What about Tage growing with the young core together and becoming leaders themselves?

Literally makes zero sense and you trying to push it because “leadership” is laughable. Keep going if you want, this is terrible, you know it is, I’m done here.


Toronto has a core of player currently in their prime and a little bit past that he can learn from. Tage is theoretically in his prime right now being 25 so he won't get much better both have 7 years left on their deals. and why are you so set on the fact that this is a terrible deal when you've only looked at the Thompson and Tavares aspect, the value rounds itself out in the end, this is only a bad deal to you because you see Tavares as an aging hasbeen and Tage Thompson as a gift from the gods. And the point of this deal is for Toronto to get out of the cap hole while not losing talent. and Buffalo still gets a valuable piece in Tavares because we both know he's worth far more than nothing
Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Lsendel3
That’s like 25% more goals… how is that not significant lol.


Because both goal totals are star number, yes Tage may have scored 22% more goals than Tavares but in the end an 11 goal difference can be made up by any one of Buffalo's current up and coming prospects like Jack Quinn so it's not like Buffalo is losing every bit of offensive talent that it has.
Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
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Toronto has a core of player currently in their prime and a little bit past that he can learn from. Tage is theoretically in his prime right now being 25 so he won't get much better both have 7 years left on their deals. and why are you so set on the fact that this is a terrible deal when you've only looked at the Thompson and Tavares aspect, the value rounds itself out in the end, this is only a bad deal to you because you see Tavares as an aging hasbeen and Tage Thompson as a gift from the gods. And the point of this deal is for Toronto to get out of the cap hole while not losing talent. and Buffalo still gets a valuable piece in Tavares because we both know he's worth far more than nothing


They both don’t have 7 years. Tage has 7, JT has 2. What are you talking about.
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Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Lsendel3
They both don’t have 7 years. Tage has 7, JT has 2. What are you talking about.


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They both don’t have 7 years. Tage has 7, JT has 2. What are you talking about.


Sorry, that's my mistake. By the end of the contract, you could sign JT for less because of the AGE factor so what are you still complaining about?
Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.
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Sorry, that's my mistake. By the end of the contract, you could sign JT for less because of the AGE factor so what are you still complaining about?


That’s never a guarantee. NYI thought they were gonna keep him, he wanted to go home. You don’t make trades based upon 2 year out potential resignings. Also, the age factor does matter. 32 vs 25. You say Tage is at his peak, so JT is going to be on the downward trend. But Buffalo should gift him to Tor all in the name of leadership for a declining player? Your premise doesn’t make any sense, it’s a bad deal for Buffalo. Honestly the picks are so negligible in a move like this they hardly are even a factor. I suggest you learn appropriate values on things before posting nonsense again
Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Lsendel3
That’s never a guarantee. NYI thought they were gonna keep him, he wanted to go home. You don’t make trades based upon 2 year out potential resignings. Also, the age factor does matter. 32 vs 25. You say Tage is at his peak, so JT is going to be on the downward trend. But Buffalo should gift him to Tor all in the name of leadership for a declining player? Your premise doesn’t make any sense, it’s a bad deal for Buffalo


You do make trade based upon 2 years out of a potential resigning, it' actually very common in the modern NHL, it's called a rental, and at his current age, like fleury Tavares would likely resign with Buffalo not wanting to uproot his family near the end of his career.
Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:35 p.m.
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You do make trade based upon 2 years out of a potential resigning, it' actually very common in the modern NHL, it's called a rental, and at his current age, like fleury Tavares would likely resign with Buffalo not wanting to uproot his family near the end of his career.


YOU DON'T TRADE AN ELITE NHL PLAYER FOR A RENTAL.
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Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:35 p.m.
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Toronto has a core of player currently in their prime and a little bit past that he can learn from. Tage is theoretically in his prime right now being 25 so he won't get much better both have 7 years left on their deals. and why are you so set on the fact that this is a terrible deal when you've only looked at the Thompson and Tavares aspect, the value rounds itself out in the end, this is only a bad deal to you because you see Tavares as an aging hasbeen and Tage Thompson as a gift from the gods. And the point of this deal is for Toronto to get out of the cap hole while not losing talent. and Buffalo still gets a valuable piece in Tavares because we both know he's worth far more than nothing


Also I didn’t say JT was worth nothing. I said he’s not worth a top 5 value contract in the league that also happens to be a better player. You explained yourself why Buffalo shouldn’t consider this. Tor gets out of cap trouble, gets the better player (signed for 5 more years which you ignore or say well Buffalo can just resign Tavares, who will be 34 btw). All to move up in the first (will be a late first) for a second (probably a mid second as Buffalo won’t be Stanley cup ready for a couple years). All for

Leadership
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Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.
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You do make trade based upon 2 years out of a potential resigning, it' actually very common in the modern NHL, it's called a rental, and at his current age, like fleury Tavares would likely resign with Buffalo not wanting to uproot his family near the end of his career.


You are right, Tavares doesn’t want to uproot his family near the end of his career. So if Adams falls, hits his head and thinks he’s the Tor GM and accepts the offer, Tavares blocks it with his full NMC and poof the trade is gone. Tavares stays in Tor and Buf keeps their superior player.

Also, rentals are usually termed for a year at most (deadline rentals being 3 months).
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Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.
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They do if the value is there, the sabres have been looking for a veteran who can lead the team with his words and with his ability to play the game. Tavares being of course that veteran leader can still put up 25-35 goals per year and he has better defensive numbers than Tage.


Tage put up 47 goals 94 points in 78 games. In the last two seasons he's top-10 in goals (85) and top-25 in points (162).

And he's signed long-term to one of the best contracts in the league--7 yrs @ $7.14M AAV

Just stop now.
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Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.
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You do make trade based upon 2 years out of a potential resigning, it' actually very common in the modern NHL, it's called a rental, and at his current age, like fleury Tavares would likely resign with Buffalo not wanting to uproot his family near the end of his career.


This deal is extremely lopsided in Toronto's favour, but I must admit, I certainly laughed with the argument that the deal is good because it is not terribly lopsided, it is just kind of lopsided, so Buffalo should jump all over it. Not sure why anyone would think this is even a possibility, may want to look up what a full no trade clause means.
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Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.
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Outsider looking in….. holy wow this is terrible for Buffalo.
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Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:47 p.m.
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YOU DON'T TRADE AN ELITE NHL PLAYER FOR A RENTAL.


Common sense. Or...maybe not so common?
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Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.
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Common sense. Or...maybe not so common?


It's honestly inconceivable how much OP believes this trade is good for both teams.
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Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:54 p.m.
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Quoting: CoachCoach
Outsider looking in….. holy wow this is terrible for Buffalo.


Quoting: Boos
Common sense. Or...maybe not so common?


Quoting: wojme
It's honestly inconceivable how much OP believes this trade is good for both teams.


THINK ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP
Aug. 1, 2023 at 12:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Domiyouknowme
THINK ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP


Not only the leadership the Tavares' offensive output wasn't far off from Thompsons
Aug. 1, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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Not only the leadership the Tavares' offensive output wasn't far off from Thompsons


11 goals is pretty significant. Also factor in that the gap will only grow since tage is entering his prime and JT is only getting further past his.
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Aug. 1, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.
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2 pages defending this trade
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Aug. 1, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.
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11 goals is pretty significant. Also factor in that the gap will only grow since tage is entering his prime and JT is only getting further past his.


No, Tage is in his prime. and 11 goals is the equivalent to a Ryan Reaves type player getting 4th line minutes. it may seem like alot but it really isn't.
Aug. 1, 2023 at 1:04 p.m.
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2 pages defending this trade


You're defending this trade?
Aug. 1, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.
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No, Tage is in his prime. and 11 goals is the equivalent to a Ryan Reaves type player getting 4th line minutes. it may seem like alot but it really isn't.


This is a take I guess
Aug. 1, 2023 at 1:05 p.m.
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This is a take I guess


What do you mean?
Aug. 1, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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What do you mean?


11 goals difference doesn’t matter I guess. Hey trade us Marner for Skinner.
 
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